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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 11:21 am 
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Scott Walker's recall attempt went into effect last night. The liberals are abusing the recall process, which is not supposed to be used for taking what they view as "unpopular votes," or "signing unpopular legislation." The liberals have to gather 540,206 signatures to force a recall. Unlike in Ohio due to their referendum process, our collective bargaining changes in our budget fix became the law of the land and we've been living under it.

This is Scott Walker's political history. He implements bold, conservative reforms, some of people get mad and buy the leftist spin, then they realize his changes make for better government for the taxpayer when the facts are presented. Property tax bills will be going out soon and people will see they stayed the same or went down, depending on the municipality and how they made use of the tools passed on to them from the state.

Even should Walker face a recall, he will win. He will be more popular than ever. If you want to make sure that this is the type of politician the Republican part wants to see more of, it's imperative that he has the support to coast to victory should he face a recall. You didn't have much opportunity influence on what happened in Ohio, but you can have an impact here in Wisconsin. Scott Walker can raise unlimited amounts of cash in this period. Donate now.

The facts are in. The changes are working. Wisconsin is a better place:

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Lefty Group Hijacks Occupy Wall Street to Recall Wisconsin Governor Walker

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In a desperate move to boost their effort to recall Governor Scott Walker, the liberal Soros front group One Wisconsin Now has hijacked the Occupy Wall Street movement. The formal Democratic Party-sponsored effort to force a recall of Governor Walker starts this week, with activists needing to gather over 1,000,000 signatures in the next 60 days to recall Walker and his lieutenant governor, Rebecca Kleefisch. Today a social media effort billed as “Occupy Walker” (see here for the Twitter account) kicks off an opening week effort to disseminate as many anti-Walker “facts” as One Wisconsin Now can invent.

One Wisconsin Now, a member of the national Progress Now network, has been active in Wisconsin since 2006. The group’s executive director is Scot Ross, a boisterous, chain-smoking political hack and failed candidate for Secretary of State. Ross is best known for his involvement in the Wisconsin Caucus Scandal when he admitted to prosecutors that he worked nearly full time at taxpayer expense on a Democratic lawmaker’s campaign.

The Occupy Wall Street movement has, for now, superseded the energy and intensity of the Madison protests that took place this past spring. Then, the national spotlight covered the hundreds of thousands of union members and professional activists who mobbed the Wisconsin capitol in an attempt to intimidate legislators and Governor Walker into halting reform efforts. Now, a handful of worn-out protesters with a laundry list of run-ins with the law forlornly watch as a national movement mimicking their tactics has moved from Wall Street to streets across America.

It is perhaps no surprise that the hardcore political knife fighters who will stop at nothing short of a recall of Scott Walker have chosen to co-opt the Occupy Wall Street movement. The move will certainly generate some attention and make the recall movement more relevant with current protest events, something that could not happen otherwise since months of time have elapsed since the Madison protests. But beyond generating excitement among the liberal base, the tactic will do nothing.

Occupy Walker is just an attempt by far-left political professionals to use the Occupy Wall Street movement as a political pawn. If they fall for it, Occupy Wall Street will become just another tool in a status quo that it thinks it can change.

A majority of Wisconsinites are opposed to recalling Governor Walker. The conservative Wisconsin Policy Research Institute conducted a poll recently that showed 49% of voters do not want to see Walker face a recall election, as compared to 47% of voters who do want to see the governor recalled. Hijacking the Occupy Wall Street movement will not add to the popularity of the Walker recall effort. The WPRI poll also found that the Occupy movement is viewed unfavorably by a majority of voters. (41% to 34%).

With Walker’s reforms working, it is telling that anti-Walker groups would find not only a political tool (or ally) in Occupy Wall Street but also an ideologically kindred spirit. OWS, as the nation has seen from many local protests, isn’t so much about protesting legitimate wrongs (bailouts, too big to fail, etc.) but refusing to accept personal responsibility for a whole host of issues. Occupiers, like the Madison union protesters, aren’t upset that someone got a sweetheart deal at taxpayer expense but that they weren’t among those who got the special deal. The entitlement mentality has long been cultivated without regard for consequence. Grumbling protesters are giving Wisconsin – and the nation – a first-hand glimpse at where the entitlement road ends: ever larger government, ever less personal responsibility, and a financial future where everyone loses and nobody is allowed to win.

If anyone needed more proof that a Walker recall is about politics and not malfeasance in office, the hijacking of the Occupy Wall Street movement is all the evidence necessary. The goals of OWS are as political and self-serving as the goals of the recall Walker movement, and perhaps that’s why both are not exactly popular with a majority of Wisconsin voters.


http://biggovernment.com/mtrackers/2011 ... or-walker/

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 Post subject: Re: Scott Walker Recall
PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 11:32 am 
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I have to admit that after looking at successes in Texas, and failures in Ohio, I'm getting to be a bit more of a mercenary on these issues. Maybe it's time that we started writing off some states that are populated by people who just can't get it together. The more states like Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin turn into financial nightmares due to socialist spending, the clearer the message becomes to other states to not let this happen to them. Even better, as states like these collapse, their businesses flee to states where the message has been received loud and clear, like Texas and Florida.

Hate to say it, but I think if Walker does get recalled, you guys are on your own.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2011 11:46 am 
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I have to admit that after looking at successes in Texas, and failures in Ohio, I'm getting to be a bit more of a mercenary on these issues. Maybe it's time that we started writing off some states that are populated by people who just can't get it together. The more states like Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin turn into financial nightmares due to socialist spending, the clearer the message becomes to other states to not let this happen to them. Even better, as states like these collapse, their businesses flee to states where the message has been received loud and clear, like Texas and Florida.

Hate to say it, but I think if Walker does get recalled, you guys are on your own.


Just about every state in the country is a financial nightmare. The few that aren't are because of the voters who sent the right politicians to the statehouse who took the right votes. That's what we did, now the politicians need to be supported for the votes they took and legislation they signed.

Having the facts on your side is always a good thing but in politics you also need the money to fight in the print and air wave wars. The liberals understand that winning the propaganda war is important, but unfortunately there are too many people that have had your mentality on the right (if you're on the right). That is changing and conservatives have become more activist. They send money directly to candidates and to organizations they know are going to fight the war for conservatism.

The unions in Washington D.C. funneled tens of millions into Wisconsin only to lose at every turn. The facts alone are not the sole reason we've continued to win, it's been the financial backing and people spreading the word. I know many people on this forum donated to that effort and they have witnessed to fruits of their labor here and from their financial support.

On another note, the way you encourage politicians who did the things we want them to do is to support them after they've done those things. It emboldens them to do more. I can guarantee that no politician is going to stick his or her neck on the line if they think that they're going to get bounced from office in a special election for doing so. You can argue that's not how it should be, but that's how it is.

I'm not worried here. Scott Walker will win if he has to face a recall, and people like yourself won't be reason why. It'll be thanks to those who recognize the need for strong states in good fiscal order who fight against an out of control federal government. There are more of them than there are you.

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 Post subject: Re: Scott Walker Recall
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I suspect that Walker is safe from re-call.

The left is pandering to their most base element.

Walker's fiscal record alone should be more than enough to ensure his viability.


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 Post subject: Re: Scott Walker Recall
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I used to think you're view is right, but I'm thinking more and more it's not the case. I think the reality is more and more that the leeches in our society have multiplied to the point where they are now calling the shots, a view reinforced by the recent vote in Ohio.

Being a vet, I understand the failure of the "strong everywhere" strategy, and realize sometimes you have to cede ground in order to make your forces stronger where they can do you some good. Conservatives ceded California, New York, and Michigan years ago, but there's been so much outside the state support coming in to California and New York that only Michigan is serving as a bad example, and a state like Michigan by itself will never get the job done. We're going to need to lose several of these states before people really wake up. Pennsylvania will be the next to go, followed by (I think) Ohio, and your state could well be next if Walker gets recalled and the unions take over again as they'll owe a LOT of debts to a lot of Socialist efforts, which will make matters even worse for you guys but ultimately I think better for everyone else in the country as we'll be able to point at your state and say "see, the Conservatives were right! Now we better get our state in order now!"

I was hoping we would get a President and Congress who would force the leeches into paying into the system ala Cain's 9-9-9 plan, which would get some of those folks to start rethinking the benefits of government handouts once they had to start paying for them, but my hope for that is fading quickly.


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 Post subject: Re: Scott Walker Recall
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I'm with you, Demi. We desperately need more dedicated public servants like Scott Walker.
The 2010 elections were very successful in electing local and state conservatives.

Hopefully the next two or three cycles will build on the track record started in states like Wisconsin and Ohio and convince voters to get more involved in the political process.

I have long said public awareness would increase as the economic situation worsened, but it seems that totally liberal-infested states such as California and Massachusetts haven't suffered enough yet.


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I made a contribution to the fund set up by the State GOP because of the Leftist idiots. I don't see him challenged, but I'm willing to toss a couple of bucks in the kitty to see more ads like that.


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Oh good, they got "PayPal". I just donated $100. I ain't got nobody to donate too, here in the People's Republic of Massachusetts. Glad to do it, and good luck :thumb:
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They can have whatever is locked up in my Poker Stars account since I can't get it because of the gubmint deciding it's not good to play poker. I'll never, ever and I mean NEVER send any politician, whatever party they belong to....a single dime!


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Walker is safe. They failed once and that was being selective about the districts they thought they could swing. Here in Ohio, Issue two was shot down but issue three(making Obamacare illegal) handily passed. The unions used the 'threatening public safety by reducing firefighters and police' lie. Now the state, in fact, has no choice but to layoff safety workers, teachers and others and the goonionists can't do a damn thing about that. I'm sure that these jerks will in fact come back and try to negotiate with the governor when they see that everybody taking a little hit is much better twenty percent of them being permanently terminated.
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I suspect that Walker is safe from re-call.

The left is pandering to their most base element.

Walker's fiscal record alone should be more than enough to ensure his viability.


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I was ready to give it all to Sarah Palin. Ten thousand, twenty thousand, whatever she needed!!
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I made a contribution to the fund set up by the State GOP because of the Leftist idiots. I don't see him challenged, but I'm willing to toss a couple of bucks in the kitty to see more ads like that.


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Some of the contractors that work for me here at the plant went to lunch in Two Rivers yesterday & saw an idiot standing on the corner of Highway 42 with a "Recall Walker" sign. Problem was, it was upside down & the idiot wasn't dressed for the cool/damp weather. Unfortunately, they didn't get a photo of the stupid bee otch.


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Bribing underage girls with cigarettes to illegally sign recall petitions and get their friends to do the same:

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Defacing a Veteran's Park Sign:

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Anyone think this is an above board process? You're an idiot if you do. This is what we're up against and why this needs to be fought by conservatives nationwide.


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Getting 'recall signatures' at the cemetery:

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Demiurge - With some of the more serious criminal activity coming out of OWS, I just hope cigarettes for signatures are all those two minors are going to get!


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Bribing underage girls with cigarettes to illegally sign recall petitions and get their friends to do the same:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iWYY8NqAv4[/youtube]

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Defacing a Veteran's Park Sign:

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Anyone think this is an above board process? You're an idiot if you do. This is what we're up against and why this needs to be fought by conservatives nationwide.


Don't those signatures need to be vetted? Aren't addresses required? Aren't registered voters the only ones allowed to have their signature count?


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Sure, by the GAB. A bunch of retired liberal judges. The standards are such a joke with the residency rules and such that they'll push through all sorts of bogus signatures. Hopefully we'll be able to challenge and get some thrown out. Sad that the GAB isn't accountable so we need to independently hold them accountable. I'm sure the first order of business after this debacle will be to eliminate or restructure the GAB.

The good news is even if there's a recall they can't find anyone to run against him, and they will lose...so long as people realize this recall is national for the liberals and needs to be national for the conservatives.


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Sure, by the GAB. A bunch of retired liberal judges. The standards are such a joke with the residency rules and such that they'll push through all sorts of bogus signatures. Hopefully we'll be able to challenge and get some thrown out. Sad that the GAB isn't accountable so we need to independently hold them accountable. I'm sure the first order of business after this debacle will be to eliminate or restructure the GAB.

The good news is even if there's a recall they can't find anyone to run against him, and they will lose...so long as people realize this recall is national for the liberals and needs to be national for the conservatives.

Conservatives nationally, owe Wisconsin a debt of gratitude. Someone had to have the stones to take on the public unions. That someone, was Wisconsin.


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Don't forget Indiana, Ohio. They did too. Different situations, especially since the union heads sent their goons here to make it their swan song. These rats aren't all dead yet, though.


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The unions in Washington D.C. funneled tens of millions into Wisconsin only to lose at every turn.
Now there's a form of bailout I approve of.


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Getting 'recall signatures' at the cemetery:

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What method do the use to vet the lists?


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It's quit telling that the Dems haven't stated that it was only a prank after they pulled down the headstone name collecting event. Must mean it's for real.

Amazingly bold fraud and they must know they can get away with it. Flaunting their voter fraud right out in the open. Wow! :whoa:

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The MacIver Institute, a conservative free-market think tank based in Madison, Wisconsin reached out to the Democratic Party’s spokesman via Twitter and asked him to explain the screenshot of the event. The page was apparently taken down from the website shortly after it appeared.

In a short back-and-forth exchange, Graeme Zielinski, the spokesman, refused to state whether or not the page was an actual DPW sanctioned event or a prank by someone trying to tarnish the credibility of the recall effort. Zielinski would only hurl insults at the conservative group asking him for comment and dogged the question.

While the Democratic Party of Wisconsin refuses to comment about the matter, the public will be left to wonder how many recall “signatures” will come straight from headstones in Wisconsin cemeteries.

http://biggovernment.com/mtrackers/2011/11/16/wisconsin-dems-head-to-cemetery-to-recall-walker/


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Cheat, lie, fraud...whatever it takes.

Does anyone EVER go to jail or pay fines for voter fraud? :hm2:

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Outspoken Wisconsin Dem Senator Accessory to Voter Fraud

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Media Trackers discovered that over 20 individuals voted, some illegally, from one of Senator Lena Taylor’s (D-Milwaukee) properties during the April 5, 2011 spring election. According to a Media Trackers open records request with the City of Milwaukee Election Commission, the property at 1018 N 35th St. in Milwaukee currently has 36 active voter registrations and at least 23 individuals voted using the address.

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Senator Lena Taylor

Media Trackers was tipped off to Senator Taylor’s property by the Wisconsin GrandSons of Liberty, who found 11 individuals that registered on election day to vote from Taylor’s property, 7 of which were corroborated by Senator Taylor’s mother, Lena J Taylor.

“Using open records requests, we obtained copies of the 11,017 Milwaukee County Election Day Registrations and created a database to analyze the entries from all 19 municipalities in the county,” said Tim Dake of the Wisconsin GrandSons of Liberty. Dake explained further that “our volunteers ran numerous queries on the data and were surprised to see the name Lena Taylor appear on so many forms.”

The Property

According to property records obtained from the Milwaukee Department of Neighborhood Services, Senator Lena C. Taylor owns the property at 1018 N. 35th St. in Milwaukee. The property has 6 units and is zoned by the Milwaukee Zoning Code as RT3. According to the City of Milwaukee Zoning Code, properties zoned RT3 are intended to “promote, preserve and protect neighborhoods intended primarily for two-family dwellings.”

According to records from the Wisconsin Department of Financial Institutions, Senator Taylor’s mother, Lena J. Taylor, ran a delinquent and now defunct non-profit on the property called “Mama Delta’s Lovehouse.” The non-profit was allegedly a “homeless/temporary shelter” from February 2007 until March 2011, less than one month before the April 5, election. The organization was found delinquent in January of 2010, given a notice of dissolution in January 2011, and officially administratively dissolved as of March 15, 2011.

Despite the prescence of the non-profit on the premises of 1018 N. 35th St., the City of Milwaukee Zoning Code reads:

H. Group Home, Group Foster Home, or Community Living Arrangement

h-2 If the use is located in an RS1 to RS6 or RT1 to RT3 district, not more than 8 clients shall reside on the premises. In all other residential districts, not more than 15 clients shall reside on the premises.

Even if Taylor’s mother’s delinquent and dissolved non-profit were an excuse for the number of voters at 1018 N. 35th St., housing 36 individuals would be a violation of the City of Milwaukee Zoning Code for the property itself.

The Voters

The issue with Senator Taylor’s property does not stop at the exorbitant number of active voters or the number of individuals who used the address to vote on April 5. When Media Trackers began to look at the individuals that voted from Taylor’s property, questions began to emerge about whether voters were ineligible to vote and whether they actually lived on the premises, let alone the state of Wisconsin. One individual was a felon voter and another may reside in Chicago.

According to court documents, there are at least 3 other questionable registrations at Taylor’s property. These individuals list different addresses in court documents from previous years but it cannot be determined when they registered to vote from Taylor’s property.

The Ineligible Felon Voter

On election day April 5, Russell Collins registered and voted from the property in question. Senator Taylor’s mother even corroborated for Collins, claiming to be the owner of the property on Collins’ voter registration form. When Media Trackers searched the Wisconsin Circuit Court Access Program, it was discovered that Collins’ was convicted of a Class G Felony (theft of moveable property from person) on November 5, 2010 and sentenced to 10 months in a “house of correction” with credit for 98 days served. According to Collins’ Criminal Court Filing with the Milwaukee County Court:

Court advised defendant his voting rights are suspended, and he may not vote in any election until his civil rights are restored.

With no indication on his Criminal Court Filing that his civil rights have been reinstated, and the fact that Collins’ could not have served out the totality of his 10 month sentence by April 5 election, it raises questions about whether Collins’ voted illegally and whether Senator Taylor and her mother were complicit in this fraud.

Chicago Voter?

Another individual, Mark E Lewis Sr., first registered to vote from Taylor’s property on November 4, 2008. Without voting at all in 2010, Lewis voted again from 1018 N. 35th St. for the April 5, election. But what is peculiar about Lewis is that just one month after the April 5, election, Lewis was cited for consuming food or beverage on a city bus. The rather benign citation aside, Lewis listed his address on May 4, 2011 as 4843 W. Jackson Blvd., Chicago, Illinois.

Leading to further questions about Lewis’ residency at Taylor’s property, on June 21, 2010, Lewis was cited for a host of charges including Disorderly Conduct and Resisting Arrest. In June of 2010, Lewis listed his address as 2933/37 W Wells St. Milwaukee, WI.

Either Lewis lived at 3 different residences and 2 states in the course of 11 months, the last move from Wisconsin to Illinois in less than one month, or Lewis used his active voter registration at Taylor’s property when he did not reside there.

Conclusion

Senator Lena Taylor wants to recall Gov. Scott Walker for what she believes is his misuse of power, but in this case she appears to have been an accessory to illegal voting activities. Furthermore, Senator Lena Taylor was an outspoken critic of the Photo ID bill, but if that bill had been in place it could stopped some of the potential voter fraud that took place from her property.

Just last week, Sen. Lena Taylor re-introduced legislation to extend the right to vote to felons and other convicts the moment they leave jail. But instead of waiting to change the law, Senator Taylor appears to have been an accessory to at least one voter breaking current election law as it relates to felon voting.

Just after the August recall elections, Senator Taylor wrote “when you assault the values and history of the Badger State, you will be held accountable.”

The scope of this scheme indicates that Senator Lena Taylor and her mother need to be asked very serious questions about how the property was used, and how it came to be that 36 voters, some felons still on extended supervision, and others who appear to possibly be from out of state, were registered to vote at the address. At best this is gross negligence that undermines the integrity of the election process, at worst it is an offense against the state of Wisconsin.

Using one of Senator Taylor’s favorite lines, is this really what democracy looks like?

http://biggovernment.com/mtrackers/2011/11/22/outspoken-wisconsin-dem-senator-accessory-to-voter-fraud/


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Getting 'recall signatures' at the cemetery:

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What method do the use to vet the lists?


I don't have an answer that. I do know that all they're going to catch are people who don't live here or aren't real, and even then many will slip through.

The thing that makes the process a joke is that I can sign claiming I'm you and if you're a real person that votes, well, you count whether you wanted to sign that recall or not. There's no way to prove I put you on the list and forged your signature after it's been done unless I'm caught in the act.

Signing a recall petition is part of the public record, but like I said, even if your name shows up there illegitimately the damage has already been done and there's no way to catch who did it.


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What a great place - eh? The whole thing is just enough to make you want to hurl.


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What a great place - eh? The whole thing is just enough to make you want to hurl.


:shake:

It's unbelievable :shock:

I do feel sorry for you all who have to live in this communist state of our union :sheesh:

A right to commie state :doh:


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Great interview with Governor Walker on Rush Limbaugh today.

That this recall is being attempted is amazing but not surprising. It's all about the union bosses trying to make a stand against someone who gave public workers to option to choose to be in a union or not be in a union. No longer are union dues automatically deducted from the paychecks of public workers.

You can see why the union goon squad leaders don't want this to catch on in every state.

The people really need to make sure their vote matters and not allow the pressure of the public unions to prevail. It's a national issue.

Scott Walker - Governor of the Year - Governor's Journal

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(Madison, WI) – In 2011, Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker(R) served as the embodiment of the state by state battle to balance budgets and the best symbol of the struggle between the two political parties about how best to meet those fiscal challenges. His first year will extend well into his second year, quite likely culminating in a recall election to remove him from office.

He has dominated the political debate on both sides. Defining the issues. He is cited by both Democrats and Republicans as the best of example of what is wrong, or what is right with a conservative approach to government. Although they will never admit it, many Democratic governors are different from Walker only in a matter of degrees.

Nearly every governor, regardless of party, began the year saying the current path of expensive pension and benefit packages for public employees is unsustainable. The way the issue exploded in Wisconsin is as much a function of the legal and legislative tools at Walker’s disposal as it is about the specific route he chose to take.

This is why Governors Journal has selected Scott Walker as the 2011 Governor of the Year.

It is not accurate to say Scott Walker launched an unannounced attack on public employees. For decades, state and local government leaders have complained about government employee unions: Collective bargaining, growing benefit packages, under-funded pension systems and binding arbitration. The warning siren had howled.

As Idaho Governor Butch Otter(R) observed in one interview this year, the changes that occurred in 2011 could not have happened in the absence of the national economic collapse. In politics, things change when a crisis necessitates change.

That was the case this year in Wisconsin and elsewhere. Years of complaining about the problem led to action in state after state. Walker was faced with a larger crisis in Wisconsin, in large part, because the unions fighting his proposal to curtail collective bargaining rights had the help of a small group of Senate Democrats who fled the state, preventing a vote, for several weeks, as pro-union forces took over the Capitol in support.

Eventually Walker prevailed. In an ironic twist, the union organized Madison melodrama may have helped efforts to curtail union rights and benefit packages in other states, where reforms slipped in under the radar.

The union cause had one victory this year when voters over turned Walker style reforms in Ohio. Just a few weeks later, public employees suffered another defeat in Rhode Island, where a heavily Democratic legislature, working with Governor Lincoln Chafee(I), enacted what is considered the most sweeping pension reform in the country.

Now on to 2012. Walker is facing a well organized and well funded movement to recall him from office. Democrats and unions have teamed up and seem well on their way to gathering the signatures they need(540,000) to force an election.

Walker is raising money himself and has begun a campaign to defend his record and hold onto his office through 2014. Next to the presidential race, if the recall election takes place, it may be the biggest political story in the country in the coming year.

But consider this. Even if Walker is removed from office, he still wins the debate. Any setback will be temporary. Pension reforms are a reality. California is next.

Walker, heralded as a “hero” of the conservative cause, will be in Washington in two months to address the American Conservative Union. If he comes out on top, in a special election, he is a right wing political star. If he loses, he is a political martyr, but still a star. What Walker represents – the idea behind his policies – cannot be killed even if he is temporarily removed from office.


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 Post subject: Re: Scott Walker Recall
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Walker gets the job done, but the media (including "conservatives') fawn over Christie's every flatulation.


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 Post subject: Re: Scott Walker Recall
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I spent Christmas in Madison WI. I saw all the "Recall Walker" signs. Made me sick. The recall Walker bumper stickers were usually on pretty nice cars, certainly better than mine.

The local paper listed the ways in which some localities have already made use of the new law. Some will base future teacher layoffs on something other than seniority. One school board gave a one time reimbursement to teachers taking courses for their Master's Degree but ended the automatic increase in pay for teachers obtaining the extra degree.

If the anti-Walker people were to prevail this would result in layoffs of the most junior govt employees and pay increases for the more senior govt employees, which is just fine with the more senior employees.


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 Post subject: Re: Scott Walker Recall
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Was in the liberal mecca of Hopewell Township today(Rush Holt anyone) and actually saw an Obama-Biden sticker on one side of the bumper and a recall Walker on the other side. :doh:


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 Post subject: Re: Scott Walker Recall
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Demi is right, once the property tax bills go out, it's over.


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 Post subject: Re: Scott Walker Recall
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They're out. My taxes went down.

I'm going to be sticking a sign out in front of my house with a flood light noting that too. I'm not in a McMansion.

"SCOTT WALKER LOWERED MY MIDDLE CLASS TAXES. RECALL? PUBLIC WORKERS, IT'S TIME TO PAY YOUR FAIR SHARE!"

Should rile up the teachers that take my street to the high school two blocks away.


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 Post subject: Re: Scott Walker Recall
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Bruzilla wrote:
I have to admit that after looking at successes in Texas, and failures in Ohio, I'm getting to be a bit more of a mercenary on these issues. Maybe it's time that we started writing off some states that are populated by people who just can't get it together. The more states like Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin turn into financial nightmares due to socialist spending, the clearer the message becomes to other states to not let this happen to them. Even better, as states like these collapse, their businesses flee to states where the message has been received loud and clear, like Texas and Florida.

Hate to say it, but I think if Walker does get recalled, you guys are on your own.



And were you one of the ones, that called me crazy for advocating secession?

The point is, that the rats cannot help themselves. They live to destroy the lives of others.

WE would be best, to let them tax themselves into prosperity, to promote rap music to their children, and let the liberal teachers teach proper gerbil handling to their children.

Wheat from the Chaff.


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 Post subject: Re: Scott Walker Recall
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When we get rid of Oblabba and start to roll back this endless slop trough that Liberals have foisted on this country.... you can count on what has happened, and what IS happening in Wisconsin to happen nationwide..... X 1000!!!!!!!!

Poor Liberal UNION babies..... :pout: waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa :cry: sob sob sob sob

1st off- I hope they fail to get the needed signatures.
2nd- If they do get the recall... I hope he trounces them... and then accepts
an invitation to be Vice President for the Republican nominee! :nod:

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 Post subject: Re: Scott Walker Recall
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timH wrote:
And were you one of the ones, that called me crazy for advocating secession?


??? You're going to have to refresh my memory on that one.


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