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Re: 2/1/17 - GIVE ME YOUR TIRED ARGUMENTS ...

#68

by Ray Gun » Tue Mar 21, 2017 6:02 pm

Rob11 wrote:
Tue Mar 21, 2017 5:17 pm
I love it when Liberals proclaim something to be "unconstitutional". It almost never is.
It's like Dr. Frankenstein. As long as they think it's their creation, they want to build it more and more. But as a soon as a "fascist" is in office, who doesn't like their global village, suddenly they see a monster.

Trump MUST be doing somethin unconstitutional and impeachable. How about enforcing Medicare, Medicaid, the EPA regs, running the Dept of Education Something.

Re: 2/1/17 - GIVE ME YOUR TIRED ARGUMENTS ...

#67

by Rob11 » Tue Mar 21, 2017 5:17 pm

Ray Gun wrote:
Tue Mar 21, 2017 11:44 am
gartay wrote:
Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:36 pm
I'm not the one making a false accusation based on the emolument clause -- that would be you.
I think you mean - that would be you.

A liberal waving the Constitutional around? His hypocrisy knows no bounds.
LOL.

I love it when Liberals proclaim something to be "unconstitutional". It almost never is.

Re: 2/1/17 - GIVE ME YOUR TIRED ARGUMENTS ...

#66

by Ray Gun » Tue Mar 21, 2017 11:44 am

gartay wrote:
Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:36 pm
I'm not the one making a false accusation based on the emolument clause -- that would be you.
I think you mean - that would be you.

A liberal waving the Constitutional around? His hypocrisy knows no bounds.

Re: Remember when Trump said...

#65

by Ray Gun » Tue Mar 21, 2017 11:41 am

OscarLevant wrote:
Tue Mar 14, 2017 12:51 pm
From the net...
****************
Remember when the so-called President said he was going to donate his salary? Well he just accepted his second paycheck.
I still don't see three quotes. A liar trying to yell liar.

Re: 02/01/17 - GIVE ME YOUR TIRED ARGUMENTS ...

#64

by TomLama » Tue Mar 21, 2017 5:34 am

:zz:

Quit mailing it in Ann.

Remember all those fevered moments when you promised me you would hijack the Democrat Party, put box cutter to their juggler veins, crash THEIR EFFING PARTY INTO SMITHERINGS?

Carry on soldier.

MADLY in love,

(Probably worthy of private investigator involvement.)

Tom

Re: Some stupid liberal...

#63

by Rob11 » Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:35 am

OscarLevant wrote:
Fri Mar 17, 2017 7:46 pm
Rob11 wrote:
Tue Mar 14, 2017 4:35 pm
OscarLevant wrote:
Tue Mar 14, 2017 11:49 am
Rob11 wrote:
Tue Mar 07, 2017 5:58 pm
OscarLevant wrote:
Mon Mar 06, 2017 11:48 pm
Ray Gun wrote:
Fri Mar 03, 2017 9:25 am
I don't believe there has ever been an accurate post in internet history that started with the word, "you apparently."

I am giving YOU a chance to make your own impression. Go ahead. Show them a thing or two, if you can. And I don't watch TV, so I don't follow in detail what script those sock puppets are reading from.

Three quotes please?
Time to show off the vast cosmos that is liberal intellect. Time to prove you are not just another drone in an unending line of liberal hypocrites who can't answer a simple question about substantiation, whose fullest demonstration of intelligence consists of spewing sophomoric hate speech (while hypocritically complaining about people who spew hate). Is there an intelligent liberal anywhere in creation?

I would consider addressing any of the numerous unrelated points you raised to create a diversion - but if you can't discuss one thing intelligently - your own claim - why should I assume you can discuss anything intelligently?
That you are not, apparently, impressive, is not meant to be precise, hence the word "apparently", particularly when
observing someone's unimpressiveness requires only a general level truthfulness, a general assessment,
in the sense that it's an opinion, an observation.

The fact that you must declare the obvious as if you were making an acute point when it's anything but,
is proof of said unimpressiveness.

There is no point of intelligent discussions with unimpressive persons, dullards who are therefore likely to be lacking intelligence.

Oh, I could be wrong, but my gut feeling is that I'm right. So, bother someone else who might guzzle your silly bait.

I use bait for fishing real fish, not toying with fools who back Donald Trump.
Quit lying. Vegans don't fish.
Quit assuming. I'm a beefatarian
That package of "beef" you bought at Whole Foods wasn't real beef, though...

http://beyondmeat.com/products

You act like a vegan, dude, so it's a reasonable assumption.
One man's reasonable assumption is another man's stereotype.

I don't shop at Whole foods.
Ok, your co-op, then.

Re: 2/1/17 - GIVE ME YOUR TIRED ARGUMENTS ...

#62

by gartay » Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:36 pm

OscarLevant wrote:
Mon Mar 20, 2017 12:26 pm
gartay wrote:
Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:12 am
OscarLevant wrote:
Sat Feb 11, 2017 1:26 pm
Ray Gun wrote:
Sat Feb 11, 2017 6:20 am
OscarLevant wrote:
Sat Feb 11, 2017 4:43 am
Ray Gun wrote:
Fri Feb 10, 2017 12:43 pm
So does your entire post, but not very well.
Ahh, but there's one big difference you missed, and it is this:
The targets of Ann's & Trump's vicious pens and/or vile mouths most certainly do not deserve it, but they, however, most certainly do.
I have always noticed the hypocrites credo - it's different when you do it than it is when those you hate do it. It's OK for the Trump haters to hate. It's OK for the Muzzies to hate.

Haters yelling hater? How could anyone fail to notice such blatant hypocrisy?

BTW, can you give three examples of Trump's poison pen on those who don't deserve it. Exact quotes, not fake news?
hypocrisy?

You mean like how they investigated Hillary 8 times for Benghazi, found nothing they could pin on her, bitched, moaned about it, but during Bush years there were 13 embassy attacks and 60 deaths and not one investigation or peep
out of Ann, Hannity, et al etc?


You mean like when, during the campaign, Trump and repubs exclaimed "Hillary would use the presidency for profit" and we have Trump, Kelly Ann, et al, hawking stuff, recieving money for hotel and promoting hotels all on the gov's dime and not one peep out of Ann, et al.


You mean like when, during the campaign, "Hillary would be corrupt" and on day one, Trump is violation of the emoluments clause and repubs & Ann well, not one peep out of them.

You mean like when, during the campaign, Trump and repubs bitched and moaned about how Hillary was going to do "pay for play" out the gazoo and what do we have now? Many of Trump's cabinent appointments are big time donors to his campaign and not one peep out of Repubs, Ann, et all.



And I could go on for about 30 more pages, my hypocrisy meter is redlining, but why bother?

Examples

1. Judge 1
2. Judge 2
3. Media reporting on Trump lying about voter fraud, (and yes, it is a lie )and Trump calls CNN "Fake news".

And the list can easily go on, but why bother. By the way, Politifact awarded trump "liar of the year"

yeah, I know, it's all fake news, see, thats' convenient, whenever anyone points out the BS by Trump or repubs you guys call it "fake".

At some point, you're going to have to step out of the Truman show bubble, until then, I cant' help you.
Before you rail against emoluments it would be helpful to know what emoluments are.
Then I suggest you look it up if you don't know.
I'm not the one making a false accusation based on the emolument clause -- that would be you.

Re: 2/1/17 - GIVE ME YOUR TIRED ARGUMENTS ...

#61

by OscarLevant » Mon Mar 20, 2017 12:26 pm

gartay wrote:
Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:12 am
OscarLevant wrote:
Sat Feb 11, 2017 1:26 pm
Ray Gun wrote:
Sat Feb 11, 2017 6:20 am
OscarLevant wrote:
Sat Feb 11, 2017 4:43 am
Ray Gun wrote:
Fri Feb 10, 2017 12:43 pm
OscarLevant wrote:
Fri Feb 10, 2017 12:33 pm
When it's convenient he and you both, shame, belittle, trivial your opponent or their argument
So does your entire post, but not very well.
Ahh, but there's one big difference you missed, and it is this:
The targets of Ann's & Trump's vicious pens and/or vile mouths most certainly do not deserve it, but they, however, most certainly do.
I have always noticed the hypocrites credo - it's different when you do it than it is when those you hate do it. It's OK for the Trump haters to hate. It's OK for the Muzzies to hate.

Haters yelling hater? How could anyone fail to notice such blatant hypocrisy?

BTW, can you give three examples of Trump's poison pen on those who don't deserve it. Exact quotes, not fake news?
hypocrisy?

You mean like how they investigated Hillary 8 times for Benghazi, found nothing they could pin on her, bitched, moaned about it, but during Bush years there were 13 embassy attacks and 60 deaths and not one investigation or peep
out of Ann, Hannity, et al etc?


You mean like when, during the campaign, Trump and repubs exclaimed "Hillary would use the presidency for profit" and we have Trump, Kelly Ann, et al, hawking stuff, recieving money for hotel and promoting hotels all on the gov's dime and not one peep out of Ann, et al.


You mean like when, during the campaign, "Hillary would be corrupt" and on day one, Trump is violation of the emoluments clause and repubs & Ann well, not one peep out of them.

You mean like when, during the campaign, Trump and repubs bitched and moaned about how Hillary was going to do "pay for play" out the gazoo and what do we have now? Many of Trump's cabinent appointments are big time donors to his campaign and not one peep out of Repubs, Ann, et all.



And I could go on for about 30 more pages, my hypocrisy meter is redlining, but why bother?

Examples

1. Judge 1
2. Judge 2
3. Media reporting on Trump lying about voter fraud, (and yes, it is a lie )and Trump calls CNN "Fake news".

And the list can easily go on, but why bother. By the way, Politifact awarded trump "liar of the year"

yeah, I know, it's all fake news, see, thats' convenient, whenever anyone points out the BS by Trump or repubs you guys call it "fake".

At some point, you're going to have to step out of the Truman show bubble, until then, I cant' help you.
Before you rail against emoluments it would be helpful to know what emoluments are.
Then I suggest you look it up if you don't know.

Re: 2/1/17 - GIVE ME YOUR TIRED ARGUMENTS ...

#60

by gartay » Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:12 am

OscarLevant wrote:
Sat Feb 11, 2017 1:26 pm
Ray Gun wrote:
Sat Feb 11, 2017 6:20 am
OscarLevant wrote:
Sat Feb 11, 2017 4:43 am
Ray Gun wrote:
Fri Feb 10, 2017 12:43 pm
OscarLevant wrote:
Fri Feb 10, 2017 12:33 pm
When it's convenient he and you both, shame, belittle, trivial your opponent or their argument
So does your entire post, but not very well.
Ahh, but there's one big difference you missed, and it is this:
The targets of Ann's & Trump's vicious pens and/or vile mouths most certainly do not deserve it, but they, however, most certainly do.
I have always noticed the hypocrites credo - it's different when you do it than it is when those you hate do it. It's OK for the Trump haters to hate. It's OK for the Muzzies to hate.

Haters yelling hater? How could anyone fail to notice such blatant hypocrisy?

BTW, can you give three examples of Trump's poison pen on those who don't deserve it. Exact quotes, not fake news?
hypocrisy?

You mean like how they investigated Hillary 8 times for Benghazi, found nothing they could pin on her, bitched, moaned about it, but during Bush years there were 13 embassy attacks and 60 deaths and not one investigation or peep
out of Ann, Hannity, et al etc?


You mean like when, during the campaign, Trump and repubs exclaimed "Hillary would use the presidency for profit" and we have Trump, Kelly Ann, et al, hawking stuff, recieving money for hotel and promoting hotels all on the gov's dime and not one peep out of Ann, et al.


You mean like when, during the campaign, "Hillary would be corrupt" and on day one, Trump is violation of the emoluments clause and repubs & Ann well, not one peep out of them.

You mean like when, during the campaign, Trump and repubs bitched and moaned about how Hillary was going to do "pay for play" out the gazoo and what do we have now? Many of Trump's cabinent appointments are big time donors to his campaign and not one peep out of Repubs, Ann, et all.



And I could go on for about 30 more pages, my hypocrisy meter is redlining, but why bother?

Examples

1. Judge 1
2. Judge 2
3. Media reporting on Trump lying about voter fraud, (and yes, it is a lie )and Trump calls CNN "Fake news".

And the list can easily go on, but why bother. By the way, Politifact awarded trump "liar of the year"

yeah, I know, it's all fake news, see, thats' convenient, whenever anyone points out the BS by Trump or repubs you guys call it "fake".

At some point, you're going to have to step out of the Truman show bubble, until then, I cant' help you.
Before you rail against emoluments it would be helpful to know what emoluments are.

Re: Some stupid liberal...

#59

by OscarLevant » Fri Mar 17, 2017 7:46 pm

Rob11 wrote:
Tue Mar 14, 2017 4:35 pm
OscarLevant wrote:
Tue Mar 14, 2017 11:49 am
Rob11 wrote:
Tue Mar 07, 2017 5:58 pm
OscarLevant wrote:
Mon Mar 06, 2017 11:48 pm
Ray Gun wrote:
Fri Mar 03, 2017 9:25 am
OscarLevant wrote:
Fri Mar 03, 2017 3:01 am
You apparently believe you are impressing your members of this forum, but you are truly not impressive.
I don't believe there has ever been an accurate post in internet history that started with the word, "you apparently."

I am giving YOU a chance to make your own impression. Go ahead. Show them a thing or two, if you can. And I don't watch TV, so I don't follow in detail what script those sock puppets are reading from.

Three quotes please?
Time to show off the vast cosmos that is liberal intellect. Time to prove you are not just another drone in an unending line of liberal hypocrites who can't answer a simple question about substantiation, whose fullest demonstration of intelligence consists of spewing sophomoric hate speech (while hypocritically complaining about people who spew hate). Is there an intelligent liberal anywhere in creation?

I would consider addressing any of the numerous unrelated points you raised to create a diversion - but if you can't discuss one thing intelligently - your own claim - why should I assume you can discuss anything intelligently?
That you are not, apparently, impressive, is not meant to be precise, hence the word "apparently", particularly when
observing someone's unimpressiveness requires only a general level truthfulness, a general assessment,
in the sense that it's an opinion, an observation.

The fact that you must declare the obvious as if you were making an acute point when it's anything but,
is proof of said unimpressiveness.

There is no point of intelligent discussions with unimpressive persons, dullards who are therefore likely to be lacking intelligence.

Oh, I could be wrong, but my gut feeling is that I'm right. So, bother someone else who might guzzle your silly bait.

I use bait for fishing real fish, not toying with fools who back Donald Trump.
Quit lying. Vegans don't fish.
Quit assuming. I'm a beefatarian
That package of "beef" you bought at Whole Foods wasn't real beef, though...

http://beyondmeat.com/products

You act like a vegan, dude, so it's a reasonable assumption.
One man's reasonable assumption is another man's stereotype.

I don't shop at Whole foods.

Re: Some stupid liberal...

#58

by Rob11 » Tue Mar 14, 2017 4:35 pm

OscarLevant wrote:
Tue Mar 14, 2017 11:49 am
Rob11 wrote:
Tue Mar 07, 2017 5:58 pm
OscarLevant wrote:
Mon Mar 06, 2017 11:48 pm
Ray Gun wrote:
Fri Mar 03, 2017 9:25 am
OscarLevant wrote:
Fri Mar 03, 2017 3:01 am
You apparently believe you are impressing your members of this forum, but you are truly not impressive.
I don't believe there has ever been an accurate post in internet history that started with the word, "you apparently."

I am giving YOU a chance to make your own impression. Go ahead. Show them a thing or two, if you can. And I don't watch TV, so I don't follow in detail what script those sock puppets are reading from.

Three quotes please?
Time to show off the vast cosmos that is liberal intellect. Time to prove you are not just another drone in an unending line of liberal hypocrites who can't answer a simple question about substantiation, whose fullest demonstration of intelligence consists of spewing sophomoric hate speech (while hypocritically complaining about people who spew hate). Is there an intelligent liberal anywhere in creation?

I would consider addressing any of the numerous unrelated points you raised to create a diversion - but if you can't discuss one thing intelligently - your own claim - why should I assume you can discuss anything intelligently?
That you are not, apparently, impressive, is not meant to be precise, hence the word "apparently", particularly when
observing someone's unimpressiveness requires only a general level truthfulness, a general assessment,
in the sense that it's an opinion, an observation.

The fact that you must declare the obvious as if you were making an acute point when it's anything but,
is proof of said unimpressiveness.

There is no point of intelligent discussions with unimpressive persons, dullards who are therefore likely to be lacking intelligence.

Oh, I could be wrong, but my gut feeling is that I'm right. So, bother someone else who might guzzle your silly bait.

I use bait for fishing real fish, not toying with fools who back Donald Trump.
Quit lying. Vegans don't fish.
Quit assuming. I'm a beefatarian
That package of "beef" you bought at Whole Foods wasn't real beef, though...

http://beyondmeat.com/products

You act like a vegan, dude, so it's a reasonable assumption.

Remember when Trump said...

#57

by OscarLevant » Tue Mar 14, 2017 12:51 pm

From the net...

****************

Remember when the so-called President said he was going to donate his salary? Well he just accepted his second paycheck.

Remember when he said Mexico was going to pay for the wall? He has asked Congress to appropriate the $25 billion of taxpayer money to cover costs.

Remember when he said he was going to divest from his businesses? Changed his mind.

Remember when he said he was going to release his tax returns? Changed his mind.

Remember when he said he wasn't going to go on vacation or play golf? 5 of the last 7 weekends he went on vacation and played golf, costing taxpayers $11.1 million.

Remember when he said he was going to use American steel to build these dangerous pipelines? Russian steel arrived last week for the Keystone Pipeline XL.

Remember when he said would defeat ISIS in 30 days? He still doesn't even have a plan.

Remember when he said he was going to appropriate money to HBCUs? He lied to get a photo-op.

Remember when he said he was going to drain the swamp of Washington insiders? His cabinet is filled with lobbyists, oil and Wall Street executives.

Remember when he said he wasn't going to cut social security and Medicare? The Republican bill does just this.

Remember when he said that nobody on his campaign has any communications with Russian govt? 7 of his people have now admitted they spoke and/or met with Russian officials, after they lied and got caught.

Remember when he said that the Obamacare replacement would cover more people at lower cost? The AHCA that the GOP and Trump are now pushing; they now admit will cover fewer people at a higher cost.

***************
Millions fewer covered and millions higher cost to poor, millions cheaper to the rich.
I'd like to thank Trump for waking up sleeping democrats who were conned into
voting for him last election. Trump is exposing what republicans are all about.
We shall see what happens in 2018.

Re: Some stupid liberal...

#56

by OscarLevant » Tue Mar 14, 2017 11:49 am

Rob11 wrote:
Tue Mar 07, 2017 5:58 pm
OscarLevant wrote:
Mon Mar 06, 2017 11:48 pm
Ray Gun wrote:
Fri Mar 03, 2017 9:25 am
OscarLevant wrote:
Fri Mar 03, 2017 3:01 am
You apparently believe you are impressing your members of this forum, but you are truly not impressive.
I don't believe there has ever been an accurate post in internet history that started with the word, "you apparently."

I am giving YOU a chance to make your own impression. Go ahead. Show them a thing or two, if you can. And I don't watch TV, so I don't follow in detail what script those sock puppets are reading from.

Three quotes please?
Time to show off the vast cosmos that is liberal intellect. Time to prove you are not just another drone in an unending line of liberal hypocrites who can't answer a simple question about substantiation, whose fullest demonstration of intelligence consists of spewing sophomoric hate speech (while hypocritically complaining about people who spew hate). Is there an intelligent liberal anywhere in creation?

I would consider addressing any of the numerous unrelated points you raised to create a diversion - but if you can't discuss one thing intelligently - your own claim - why should I assume you can discuss anything intelligently?
That you are not, apparently, impressive, is not meant to be precise, hence the word "apparently", particularly when
observing someone's unimpressiveness requires only a general level truthfulness, a general assessment,
in the sense that it's an opinion, an observation.

The fact that you must declare the obvious as if you were making an acute point when it's anything but,
is proof of said unimpressiveness.

There is no point of intelligent discussions with unimpressive persons, dullards who are therefore likely to be lacking intelligence.

Oh, I could be wrong, but my gut feeling is that I'm right. So, bother someone else who might guzzle your silly bait.

I use bait for fishing real fish, not toying with fools who back Donald Trump.
Quit lying. Vegans don't fish.
Quit assuming. I'm a beefatarian

Re: 02/01/17 - GIVE ME YOUR TIRED ARGUMENTS ...

#55

by Vincent Molino » Thu Mar 09, 2017 9:17 pm

Re: 2/1/17 - GIVE ME YOUR TIRED ARGUMENTS ...

#54

by Ray Gun » Wed Mar 08, 2017 10:22 am

Rob11 wrote:
Tue Mar 07, 2017 5:57 pm
The [falsely claimed] moral superiority of the left always leads them to justify the means by the ends.
Sure. There is more than one way to explain liberal dementia syndrome. Coulter has put a big dent in the topic in her books. So have others. On this forum, since its inception, liberal dementia has been reduced to any number of theorems, metaphors and analogies.

Ends justifies the means? Yup.
-They "know" they are "emotionally right," thus virtuous, so if you disagree, you must be evil.
-They "know" they are "emotionally right." So, it's different when they do it, and not hypocrisy.
-Since they emotionally right, and can't be hypocrites, it's OK to hate, while criticizing others as "haters," to discriminate while complaining about discrimination.
-They know they can't sustain a rational debate, so they change the subject, or inundate with red herrings and outliers.
-They know they can't sustain a rational debate, so they criminalize the thought and vocabulary necessary to reveal the truth.
-And one of the oldest saws, one that has been demonstrated here, they can't give a straight answer to a simple question (if it is Socratic and designed to expose their fallacies).

I only say all of this, because now that there are two us, the case of liberal dementia that I have been interviewing is much less likely to return and say again how "right" he, and again without offering any rational explanation. It's hard enough form him to hide behind his Maginot Line with me, because I am not coming "from the right." With you on the field, he is going to get caught in a crossfire.

All he would have to do to save time and keystrokes is just say he is hater and he hates Trump with all his "soul" That is, tell the truth and acknowledge his subjectivity. If I responded at all, it would be to think him for his honesty. It would make him, by my estimate, about the third honest liberal I ever heard from.

Re: Some stupid liberal...

#53

by Rob11 » Tue Mar 07, 2017 5:58 pm

OscarLevant wrote:
Mon Mar 06, 2017 11:48 pm
Ray Gun wrote:
Fri Mar 03, 2017 9:25 am
OscarLevant wrote:
Fri Mar 03, 2017 3:01 am
You apparently believe you are impressing your members of this forum, but you are truly not impressive.
I don't believe there has ever been an accurate post in internet history that started with the word, "you apparently."

I am giving YOU a chance to make your own impression. Go ahead. Show them a thing or two, if you can. And I don't watch TV, so I don't follow in detail what script those sock puppets are reading from.

Three quotes please?
Time to show off the vast cosmos that is liberal intellect. Time to prove you are not just another drone in an unending line of liberal hypocrites who can't answer a simple question about substantiation, whose fullest demonstration of intelligence consists of spewing sophomoric hate speech (while hypocritically complaining about people who spew hate). Is there an intelligent liberal anywhere in creation?

I would consider addressing any of the numerous unrelated points you raised to create a diversion - but if you can't discuss one thing intelligently - your own claim - why should I assume you can discuss anything intelligently?
That you are not, apparently, impressive, is not meant to be precise, hence the word "apparently", particularly when
observing someone's unimpressiveness requires only a general level truthfulness, a general assessment,
in the sense that it's an opinion, an observation.

The fact that you must declare the obvious as if you were making an acute point when it's anything but,
is proof of said unimpressiveness.

There is no point of intelligent discussions with unimpressive persons, dullards who are therefore likely to be lacking intelligence.

Oh, I could be wrong, but my gut feeling is that I'm right. So, bother someone else who might guzzle your silly bait.

I use bait for fishing real fish, not toying with fools who back Donald Trump.
Quit lying. Vegans don't fish.

Re: 2/1/17 - GIVE ME YOUR TIRED ARGUMENTS ...

#52

by Rob11 » Tue Mar 07, 2017 5:57 pm

Ray Gun wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2017 5:11 pm
OscarLevant wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2017 1:29 pm
What is point of this exercise? I could do it in spades
So, go ahead. Try to prove you're not full of crap.
and you'll just say they did deserve it
Saves time when you admit to being, Mr. Hypocrite. My original point - you think you have prerogative to decide who deserves it, but no one else. You just proved it.

Free speech for you and everyone else shut up. Zweig Heil
Two legs bad, four legs good.

The moral superiority of the left always leads them to justify the means by the ends.

Re: Some stupid liberal...

#51

by Ray Gun » Tue Mar 07, 2017 12:09 pm

OscarLevant wrote:
Mon Mar 06, 2017 11:48 pm
There is no point of intelligent discussions with unimpressive persons, dullards who are therefore likely to be lacking intelligence.
As the lady, said give me your me your tired argument, In this case, it's more of a tired excuse for the inability to make an argument. We both know you have been evading, not because my intellect is too low, but because it is too high.
I use bait for fishing real fish, not toying with fools who back Donald Trump.
The one using bait is you. I don't back Trump.

If you are capable of "intelligent conversation," you should have figured that out already, when you said Trump is fake, and I said - maybe he is, but you are false. And calling the other person stupid is not intelligent conversation, it's how children argue.

Either you can support your claims (with intelligent conversation) or you can't. I'll not indulge a second claim, (ie take your Trump bait) as long as you refuse to support your first claim.

Three quotes please? :)

You said I am trying to impress my colleagues, but I am trying to get you to impress them. Bring out that big liberal intellect and show some of that "intelligent conversation" and teach em a lesson. You don't have to show them any childish name-calling. They are already very good at that.

Re: Some stupid liberal...

#50

by OscarLevant » Mon Mar 06, 2017 11:48 pm

Ray Gun wrote:
Fri Mar 03, 2017 9:25 am
OscarLevant wrote:
Fri Mar 03, 2017 3:01 am
You apparently believe you are impressing your members of this forum, but you are truly not impressive.
I don't believe there has ever been an accurate post in internet history that started with the word, "you apparently."

I am giving YOU a chance to make your own impression. Go ahead. Show them a thing or two, if you can. And I don't watch TV, so I don't follow in detail what script those sock puppets are reading from.

Three quotes please?
Time to show off the vast cosmos that is liberal intellect. Time to prove you are not just another drone in an unending line of liberal hypocrites who can't answer a simple question about substantiation, whose fullest demonstration of intelligence consists of spewing sophomoric hate speech (while hypocritically complaining about people who spew hate). Is there an intelligent liberal anywhere in creation?

I would consider addressing any of the numerous unrelated points you raised to create a diversion - but if you can't discuss one thing intelligently - your own claim - why should I assume you can discuss anything intelligently?
That you are not, apparently, impressive, is not meant to be precise, hence the word "apparently", particularly when
observing someone's unimpressiveness requires only a general level truthfulness, a general assessment,
in the sense that it's an opinion, an observation.

The fact that you must declare the obvious as if you were making an acute point when it's anything but,
is proof of said unimpressiveness.

There is no point of intelligent discussions with unimpressive persons, dullards who are therefore likely to be lacking intelligence.

Oh, I could be wrong, but my gut feeling is that I'm right. So, bother someone else who might guzzle your silly bait.

I use bait for fishing real fish, not toying with fools who back Donald Trump.

Re: Some stupid liberal...

#49

by Ray Gun » Fri Mar 03, 2017 9:25 am

OscarLevant wrote:
Fri Mar 03, 2017 3:01 am
You apparently believe you are impressing your members of this forum, but you are truly not impressive.
I don't believe there has ever been an accurate post in internet history that started with the word, "you apparently."

I am giving YOU a chance to make your own impression. Go ahead. Show them a thing or two, if you can. And I don't watch TV, so I don't follow in detail what script those sock puppets are reading from.

Three quotes please?
Time to show off the vast cosmos that is liberal intellect. Time to prove you are not just another drone in an unending line of liberal hypocrites who can't answer a simple question about substantiation, whose fullest demonstration of intelligence consists of spewing sophomoric hate speech (while hypocritically complaining about people who spew hate). Is there an intelligent liberal anywhere in creation?

I would consider addressing any of the numerous unrelated points you raised to create a diversion - but if you can't discuss one thing intelligently - your own claim - why should I assume you can discuss anything intelligently?

Re: Some stupid liberal...

#48

by OscarLevant » Fri Mar 03, 2017 3:01 am

Ray Gun wrote:
Wed Mar 01, 2017 8:41 am
OscarLevant wrote:
Wed Mar 01, 2017 5:07 am
Even if I am that hypocrite you accuse me of, that doesn't change the all important fact:
Your hypocrisy is the only important element, because it contaminates and undermines everything you might say about politics.
]The very fact you have no idea what I"m talking about proves that YOU, not I, are the hypocrite.
Fact? Your speculative opinion about what I supposedly don't know is not a fact. It is ad hominem fallacy. None of your opinions are fact, and neither wishing nor insisting can make them so. You are perpetuating the stereotype held to on the Coulter forum that liberals don't even know what the word "fact" means, and try to cover up for it by slander (the topic of a Coulter boo of the same name).

Come on, dude. This is your big chance to turn on that liberal intellectual light bulb. Right here at liberal ground zero. Rain and reign that brainpower down on us, big boy. Show us the acumen, the command of history, the mastery of facts, that awe-inspiring combination of scintillating logic and elegant simplicity of common sense - that the modern American liberal cognoscenti have done such a good job of hiding all these decades.
- Prove Coulter's best-selling treatises on liberalism as a mental disorder are wrong.
- Prove that liberals and facts are not enemies - by providing those three quotes.
- Prove that liberals can give a straight answer to a simple question - by providing the three quotes.
- Prove that there is an iota of intellect behind what your claim, and that you are not just a hate-spewing hypocrite.

And it all starts at the same square one that you have been running from like a cockroach from the light.
Three quotes, please.

You apparently believe you are impressing your members of this forum, but you are truly not impressive.

There are a few conservatives who are thoughtful, articulate, whose opinions are intelligent, but they are not on fox news, they are on MSNBC, and that's Steve Schmidt and Nicole Wallace. Sometimes Joe Scarborough, but he gets annoying at times. It's people of this caliber, wherever and whomever they may be, I would be more than willing to spar with. However, you fall short of the mark,
and, as such, I have no interest in debating you.

Sorry, no Ted Nugent doll for you.

Re: 2/1/17 - GIVE ME YOUR TIRED ARGUMENTS ...

#47

by Ray Gun » Wed Mar 01, 2017 9:21 am

OscarLevant wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2017 1:18 pm
"...give three examples of Trump's poison pen on those who don't deserve it. Exact quotes, not fake news?" What is point of this exercise? I could do it in spades
I have been chuckling about this all along. That figure of speech comes from bridge, where spades are worth more points than the other suits, and you make your contract because your spades are Trump.

You're the one who has been Trump'ed (in spades). He is your ruler.

Re: 2/1/17 - GIVE ME YOUR TIRED ARGUMENTS ...

#46

by Ray Gun » Wed Mar 01, 2017 8:53 am

Aliqui, where are you? You have been trying to tell me for years that liberals operate from some 'nice person' syndrome. Here we have a liberal. Is he writing anything that sounds like it comes from someone who wants to be a nice guy? All I can get from him are justifications for his own hypocrisy and hate rhetoric.

Re: Some stupid liberal...

#45

by Ray Gun » Wed Mar 01, 2017 8:41 am

OscarLevant wrote:
Wed Mar 01, 2017 5:07 am
Even if I am that hypocrite you accuse me of, that doesn't change the all important fact:
Your hypocrisy is the only important element, because it contaminates and undermines everything you might say about politics.
]The very fact you have no idea what I"m talking about proves that YOU, not I, are the hypocrite.
Fact? Your speculative opinion about what I supposedly don't know is not a fact. It is ad hominem fallacy. None of your opinions are fact, and neither wishing nor insisting can make them so. You are perpetuating the stereotype held to on the Coulter forum that liberals don't even know what the word "fact" means, and try to cover up for it by slander (the topic of a Coulter boo of the same name).

Come on, dude. This is your big chance to turn on that liberal intellectual light bulb. Right here at liberal ground zero. Rain and reign that brainpower down on us, big boy. Show us the acumen, the command of history, the mastery of facts, that awe-inspiring combination of scintillating logic and elegant simplicity of common sense - that the modern American liberal cognoscenti have done such a good job of hiding all these decades.
- Prove Coulter's best-selling treatises on liberalism as a mental disorder are wrong.
- Prove that liberals and facts are not enemies - by providing those three quotes.
- Prove that liberals can give a straight answer to a simple question - by providing the three quotes.
- Prove that there is an iota of intellect behind what your claim, and that you are not just a hate-spewing hypocrite.

And it all starts at the same square one that you have been running from like a cockroach from the light.
Three quotes, please.

Re: Some stupid liberal...

#44

by OscarLevant » Wed Mar 01, 2017 5:07 am

Ray Gun wrote:
Tue Feb 28, 2017 9:13 am
OscarLevant wrote:
Tue Feb 28, 2017 7:11 am
Ray Gun wrote:
Sat Feb 25, 2017 10:32 am
OscarLevant wrote:
Sat Feb 25, 2017 2:05 am
Then, apparently your thinking processes are faulty. I know no such thing, ... file it under .....
"asked and answered".
No. Your files are full of the false. Three quotes of Trump doing what you claim, please?
Or we can just file the non answer under - just another lying liberal sack of sh...t
None of this matters, for the presidency is a key stone cops affair, a veritable clown car morphing into a train wreck.
That's "Keystone."

I am pursuing your idea that it is OK for you to use a poison pen, but not for Ann and Trump to do the same. Your hypocrisy. Your double standard. Your veracity or lack thereof is the only issue that concerns me. You, as a proxy for liberalism.

I asked for your data, so you can prove your apparent hypocrisy is actually justice. I tried to shine the light of truth and all you have done is run from it like a cockroach, from one subject to another - and failed to notice that, unlike vermin, I don't take bait.

Basically, you are proving Ann right, when she says liberals can't give a straight answer to a simple question. And that may well be poison to fundamentalist liberal hypocrisy.

I notice that each time it takes you a little longer to concoct a bull crap evasion. I suspect that at some point you will figure out that bull crap isn't working, and you will go away.
Same question. Three quotes?
Even if I am that hypocrite you accuse me of, that doesn't change the all important fact:

That the presidency is a keystone cops affair, a veritable clown car morphing into a train wreck.

I've sat back an listened to 24/7 Limbaugh, Savage, Hannity, and commenters on forums like this and elsewhere ad nauseum call liberals every sort of vile epithet for years, and one little peep out of lil' old me provokes a reaction from like you have no idea what I'm tallking about.

The very fact you have no idea what I"m talking about proves that YOU, not I, are the hypocrite.

Re: Some stupid liberal...

#43

by Ray Gun » Tue Feb 28, 2017 9:13 am

OscarLevant wrote:
Tue Feb 28, 2017 7:11 am
Ray Gun wrote:
Sat Feb 25, 2017 10:32 am
OscarLevant wrote:
Sat Feb 25, 2017 2:05 am
Then, apparently your thinking processes are faulty. I know no such thing, ... file it under .....
"asked and answered".
No. Your files are full of the false. Three quotes of Trump doing what you claim, please?
Or we can just file the non answer under - just another lying liberal sack of sh...t
None of this matters, for the presidency is a key stone cops affair, a veritable clown car morphing into a train wreck.
That's "Keystone."

I am pursuing your idea that it is OK for you to use a poison pen, but not for Ann and Trump to do the same. Your hypocrisy. Your double standard. Your veracity or lack thereof is the only issue that concerns me. You, as a proxy for liberalism.

I asked for your data, so you can prove your apparent hypocrisy is actually justice. I tried to shine the light of truth and all you have done is run from it like a cockroach, from one subject to another - and failed to notice that, unlike vermin, I don't take bait.

Basically, you are proving Ann right, when she says liberals can't give a straight answer to a simple question. And that may well be poison to fundamentalist liberal hypocrisy.

I notice that each time it takes you a little longer to concoct a bull crap evasion. I suspect that at some point you will figure out that bull crap isn't working, and you will go away.
Same question. Three quotes?

Re: Some stupid liberal...

#42

by OscarLevant » Tue Feb 28, 2017 7:11 am

Ray Gun wrote:
Sat Feb 25, 2017 10:32 am
OscarLevant wrote:
Sat Feb 25, 2017 2:05 am
Then, apparently your thinking processes are faulty. I know no such thing, ... file it under .....

"asked and answered".
No. Your files are full of the false.

Three quotes of Trump doing what you claim, please?
Or we can just file the non answer under - just another lying liberal sack of sh...t

None of this matters, for the presidency is a key stone cops affair, a veritable clown car morphing into a train wreck.

Re: Some stupid liberal...

#41

by Ray Gun » Sat Feb 25, 2017 10:32 am

OscarLevant wrote:
Sat Feb 25, 2017 2:05 am
Then, apparently your thinking processes are faulty. I know no such thing, ... file it under .....

"asked and answered".
No. Your files are full of the false.

Three quotes of Trump doing what you claim, please?
Or we can just file the non answer under - just another lying liberal sack of sh...t

Re: Some stupid liberal...

#40

by OscarLevant » Sat Feb 25, 2017 2:05 am

Ray Gun wrote:
Wed Feb 22, 2017 8:24 am
OscarLevant wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:50 pm
Ray Gun wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2017 12:18 pm
OscarLevant wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:34 am
A DAY IN THE LIFE
Oscar, you are proving Ann correct. She says hypocrite liberals can't give straight answers to simple questions. To wit: "...give three examples of Trump's poison pen on those who don't deserve it. Exact quotes, not fake news?" And instead, you posted more fake news.

BTW, are you related to ISIL? The Islamic State of Iraq and (Oscar) Levant. They argue like you, Jihad. Just keep spewing hate at the infidels.
The only thing that is fake is the president.
He may be fake, but your claims about him are false. I think we both know you can't come up with the three quotes and that is why your claim is false.
Then, apparently your thinking processes are faulty. I know no such thing, ... file it under .....

"asked and answered".

I'll repeat the answer, in case you missed it the first time:

I could, but you'll just say the diatribes were deserved.

That is what you will say, and because of that fact, there is no point in providing you with quotes, we'll
just have to disagree on whether or not they were deserved.

For some reason, such an elemental point outlling why optimum discourse with you on this is beyond your ability and
beyond your grasp, hence my correct conclusion that your thinking processes are faulty.

Later.

Re: Some stupid liberal...

#39

by Ray Gun » Wed Feb 22, 2017 8:24 am

OscarLevant wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:50 pm
Ray Gun wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2017 12:18 pm
OscarLevant wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:34 am
A DAY IN THE LIFE
Oscar, you are proving Ann correct. She says hypocrite liberals can't give straight answers to simple questions. To wit: "...give three examples of Trump's poison pen on those who don't deserve it. Exact quotes, not fake news?" And instead, you posted more fake news.

BTW, are you related to ISIL? The Islamic State of Iraq and (Oscar) Levant. They argue like you, Jihad. Just keep spewing hate at the infidels.
The only thing that is fake is the president.
He may be fake, but your claims about him are false. I think we both know you can't come up with the three quotes and that is why your claim is false.

Re: Some stupid liberal...

#38

by OscarLevant » Tue Feb 21, 2017 9:50 pm

Ray Gun wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2017 12:18 pm
OscarLevant wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:34 am
A DAY IN THE LIFE
Oscar, you are proving Ann correct. She says hypocrite liberals can't give straight answers to simple questions. To wit: "...give three examples of Trump's poison pen on those who don't deserve it. Exact quotes, not fake news?" And instead, you posted more fake news.

BTW, are you related to ISIL? The Islamic State of Iraq and (Oscar) Levant. They argue like you, Jihad. Just keep spewing hate at the infidels.
The only thing that is fake is the president.

Re: Some stupid liberal...

#37

by Ray Gun » Tue Feb 21, 2017 12:18 pm

OscarLevant wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:34 am
A DAY IN THE LIFE
Oscar, you are proving Ann correct. She says hypocrite liberals can't give straight answers to simple questions. To wit: "...give three examples of Trump's poison pen on those who don't deserve it. Exact quotes, not fake news?" And instead, you posted more fake news.

BTW, are you related to ISIL? The Islamic State of Iraq and (Oscar) Levant. They argue like you, Jihad. Just keep spewing hate at the infidels.

Re: 2/1/17 - GIVE ME YOUR TIRED ARGUMENTS ...

#36

by OscarLevant » Tue Feb 21, 2017 8:11 am

OscarLevant wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2017 1:29 pm
What is point of this exercise? I could do it in spades
So, go ahead. Try to prove you're not full of crap.
and you'll just say they did deserve it
Saves time when you admit to being, Mr. Hypocrite. My original point - you think you have prerogative to decide who deserves it, but no one else. You just proved it.

Free speech for you and everyone else shut up. Zweig Heil
[/quote]

Sorry, I only use bait for cashing fish.

Re: 2/1/17 - GIVE ME YOUR TIRED ARGUMENTS ...

#35

by ToddWB » Tue Feb 21, 2017 5:07 am

givemethemic wrote:
Mon Feb 06, 2017 8:31 pm
Give me your young, radical minded,
Your secret masses yearning to extinguish freedom,
The wretched refuse of your plotting shore.
Send these, the ideological, hatred-filled to me,
I'll dim the lamp beside your golden door!
:clap: :clap: :clap:

Some stupid liberal...

#34

by OscarLevant » Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:34 am

A DAY IN THE LIFE OF
JOE or JILL 'CONSERVATIVE'
Joe gets up at 6 a.m. and fills his coffeepot with water to prepare his morning coffee. The water is clean and good because some tree-hugging liberal fought for minimum water-quality standards. With his first swallow of coffee, he takes his daily medication. His medications are safe to take because some stupid commie liberal fought to insure their safety and that they work as advertised.
All but $10 of his medications are paid for by his employer's medical plan because some liberal union workers fought their employers for paid medical insurance - now Joe gets it too. He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and eggs. Joe's bacon is safe to eat because some girly-man liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing industry.
In the morning shower, Joe reaches for his shampoo. His bottle is properly labeled with each ingredient and its amount in the total contents because some crybaby liberal fought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and how much it contained. Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some environmentalist wacko liberal fought for laws to stop industries from polluting our air. He walks to the subway station for his government-subsidized ride to work. It saves him considerable money in parking and transportation fees because some fancy-pants liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a contributor.
Joe begins his work day. He has a good job with excellent pay, medical benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some lazy liberal union members fought and died for these working standards. Joes employer pays these standards because Joe's employer doesn't want his employees to call the union.
If Joe is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed, he'll get a worker compensation or unemployment check because some stupid liberal didn't think he should lose his home because of his temporary misfortune.
It's noontime and Joe needs to make a bank deposit so he can pay some bills. Joe's deposit is federally insured by the FSLIC because some godless liberal wanted to protect Joe's money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking system before the Great Depression.
Joe has to pay his Fannie Mae-underwritten mortgage and his below-market federal student loan because some elitist liberal decided that Joe and the government would be better off if he was educated and earned more money over his lifetime.
Joe is home from work. He plans to visit his father this evening at his farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive. His car is among the safest in the world because some America-hating liberal fought for car safety standards. He arrives at his boyhood home. His was the third generation to live in the house financed by Farmers' Home Administration because bankers didn't want to make rural loans. The house didn't have electricity until some big-government liberal stuck his nose where it didn't belong and demanded rural electrification.
He is happy to see his father, who is now retired. His father lives on Social Security and a union pension because some wine-drinking, cheese-eating liberal made sure he could take care of himself so Joe wouldn't have to.
Joe gets back in his car for the ride home, and turns on a radio talk show. The radio host keeps saying that liberals are bad and conservatives are good. He doesn't mention that the beloved Republicans have fought against every protection and benefit Joe enjoys throughout his day.
Joe agrees: "We don't need those big-government liberals ruining our lives! After all, I'm a self-made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have."
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