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The Joke's on Trump voters


by OscarLevant » Mon Mar 13, 2017 11:29 pm

the brand spankin' new American Health Care Act is a turkey. CBO predicts 18 million will lose their health care by 2018.
Just in time for the elections. Yeah, I know, you guys are going to say "CBO Data faulty". Not perfect, maybe it will be 15 million instead of 18, but premiums will rise for many Trump voters in rust belt states who were the decisive vote in his election. Here's something Trump et al, never mentions. Health care costs rose higher under Bush than under Obama ( oops ! ) but Trump cherry picks a few states where it's not doing so well. Overall, it's predicted to go up by 25%. But, that's mainly because Rubio installed a kneecap bill where insurers who were experiencing financial problems could not take advantage of the 85 billion dollar fund paid by pharma to help them out. Had Rubio not done this, premiums would not be as high. So, he does this, premiums go up, and now they can blame it on the ACA. It's all a very dirty business. Yes, in exchange for the fund, pharma demanded of Obama "no negotiating on drug prices", it was a Faustian bargain, for sure ( a fault that can be fixed, and I believe Bernie on this ) What, with gerrymandered districts, purging millions from voter registration rolls with "Interstate Crosscheck", shortening voting times in poor neighborhoods, not replacing old machines in poor neighborhoods but repairing and replacing them in white neighborhoods, restricting voter voting times in poor neighborhoods, but making it easier in rich neighborhoods, voter ID laws which place a greater burden on poor ( who tend to vote democrats) etc etc etc, republicans can't win fair and square, they gotta cheat,. And, to add insult to injury, we have Trump encouraging Russia to commit cyber espionage. Now they are gutting the EPA, getting rid of laws that previously disallowed corporations from polluting rivers, and a whole host of evil deeds, well, there's really only one adjective that apropos:
Repubs are evil.

Republicans wouldn't be talking about health care, proposing any health care solutions but for Obamacare. When in history did the republicans care about health care? They only care about their health care, which is paid for by taxpayers, not your health care. The love fighting against minimum wages while they vote to raise their wages. ON health care, They are only doing it now because Obamacare forced them to run on the issue, and now they have to do something about it, and do something about it they can't. The reason they can't, it's because they dont have a clue about health care. Now we have Trump cutting budgets in many agencies, in order to raise the budget for the military, which is already the strongest military in the world, bigger than that of many nations military combined ( noting that traditional wars are never fought anymore, only surgical strikes, commando ops, that sort of thing, the point is, do we really need a bigger military? I don't think so. )

Spicer was trying to make the silly argurment that because the new bill was far fewer pages, it was "better". No, it just proves that republicans are going to give you less. Health care is complicated, it demands a comprehensive, well thought out, debated on house floor, etc bil ( none of this is happening with the AHCA, they are ramming it through in the wee hours of the morning, no debating, just ramming ).

That's what "smaller government" translates, always translates into policy as, fewer goodies for the common folk and more goodies for the very rich.

Here's a question for you:

Where in the world does a successful free market health care system, one that takes care of everyone, exist?



But, of course, republicans are going to argue that health care is a privilege, that the government has no business trying to take care of people.

That's interesting, but that is not what Trump ran on. He said, many times, "We gotta take care of everyone".

You're all in for a rude awakening.

But, of course, many in the middle who didn't feel a great benefit with ACA, are going make the same argument I'm making against this bill.

Maybe so, but The difference is that the ACA can easily be fixed, the AHCA is a total turkey. Millions on the lower income scale have benefited from ACA, while a much smaller number in the upper middle and higher got squeezed ( a fact which can easily be fixed, but repubs don't want the ACA to succeed, they hate Obama ) and this fact is completely ignored.

See, if you are going to keep the "no pre-existing conditions" clause, and a few other niceties, that's going to be expensive, and with the tax cuts on the super rich, the AHCA is doomed, it will be far worse than the ACA. Also doomed are deficits, they will skyrocket. Deficits mean more inflation, which, because the rich can hedge, and the poor cannot, means it's a tax on poor people. but, that's okay with republicans, they don't really give a damn about poor people. The tell me all the time, "I'm tired of hearing about poor people". You guys really don't give a damn about poor people, and you know it. Dems were asleep in the last few elections, for sure. but, now Trump is waking up a sleeping giant, it's becoming plain as day as to what republicans are up to, what they are really about. More goodies for rich people, and less and less for poor.

Looking forward to 2018

But, argue all you want about health care, what is right, etc, we shall see what happens ( if it passes the senate, which I doubt, but it might ).

Trump voters who are poor, I sincerely believe you are going to be screwed.

But, time will tell.



by Guest » Sat Feb 11, 2017 6:22 pm

I am a physician Board Certified in both Addiction Medicine and General Practice. Your column is 100% correct. I used to have to argue with insurance companies to cover patients with addictive disease all day long. I resorted to threatening their "medical consultants" with complaints to their respective state medical boards, (who use Standard of Care to enforce their state health care codes, not contrived criteria established by insurance companies to deny coverage for specific condition) and now they don't deny coverage when I request it. It has been an uphill battle to take care of a sick person. You hit it right on the head. Loved it.



by Guest » Sun Jan 29, 2017 3:29 pm

Where can I see your upcoming calendar? In case you have a event in north California I will come to the event to meet you.



by Thank God for Ann » Thu Jan 26, 2017 7:58 pm

Ann you should be President Trumps most trusted advisor. Why isn't he talking about all the taxpayer money that has gone to pay for Illegal Alien healthcare? 10's of billions of dollars if not more.
And what about all the money we spend to house Illegal Alien criminals? Hundreds of billions of dollars? Why are we wasting our money like that? Send them back! Take an iris scan and when they cross the border pick them up again.
I had my iris scan taken at Heathrow.
And why are we spending billions and billions to surveil muslims that have immigrated here? Why are we inviting these people in here and then having to watch them so they don't kill us?
Why isn't anybody talking about this, expect you Ann! Only you!!



by Pappadave » Thu Jan 26, 2017 4:21 pm

SUPERB column, Ann! Very impressive and hits the PRECISE center of the bull's-eye as to why Obamacare is, and always was, an abject failure.



by JedCanadian » Thu Jan 26, 2017 3:25 pm

Ann also makes one other significant comment. Conservatives don't have the time to protest and get involved in marches and events. Why? They are working to pay for the people who do march and protest!!!!!



by JedCanadian » Thu Jan 26, 2017 3:23 pm

Here in Canada the greatest disaster as a result of socialism an universal health care has been on our psyches. We no longer take care of ourselves and our loved ones. I once recommended to a man who was a leader in business a set of vitamins that I knew could help his wife who was suffering from a severe condition. He asked if the vitamins were paid for by the government and when he found out NOT he wouldn't try them for his wife. It was sad but typical of a Canadian. We are losing our desire to live life and to conquer our problems and to take care of ourselves. It is unbiblical and definitely childish. This is why Canada will never be a world leader and our taxes are going up so much just to pay for all of this. We are supposed to, in the eyes of God, take care of ourselves first (owe no man anything - Romans 13:8).



by Aliquis » Wed Jan 25, 2017 7:57 pm

Ann Coulter wrote:

January 25, 2017

Like millions of Americans who are paying thousands of dollars a year for health insurance no doctors will take, I would love to be flying to Washington this week, pleading with members of Congress, spearheading letter-writing campaigns and appearing as a witness, to tell everyone about my experiences with Obamacare.

But none of us can, because we're too busy working so we can afford to pay for the health care of 22 million poor, entitled or irresponsible people under Obamacare.

Just yesterday, for example, in addition to working, I had to spend an hour -- on top of days and days last month -- figuring out which few remaining clinics provide mammograms under my brand-new, now third Obamacare insurance plan.

My original plan was made "illegal" by Obamacare, and the next two plans -- fully approved under Obamacare -- went bankrupt and were shut down by state and federal regulators.

Now I just have to pray I don't get cancer or break a bone before Obamacare is repealed because, even at $700 a month with a gigantic deductible, there is NO PLAN on the individual market accepted by the two premier hospitals in my area for cancer or broken bones.

Those $700 premiums go to pay for the pregnancies and dental care of welfare recipients and immigrants, not cancer treatment for Ann.

Democrats love to get on their high horses about the wonderful things Obamacare has done for the uninsured. They should be asked why they refuse to live under it.

After they spend 800 hours changing insurance plans every year, ending up with increasingly expensive and increasingly useless plans -- all so that their premiums can pay for the poor -- I'll be fascinated to hear about their love for the downtrodden.

Same with Republicans who are, once again, being bamboozled by lobbyists, to the detriment of their taxpaying constituents who don't have time or money to fly to Washington and tell them our hard-luck stories.

Insurance lobbyists have somehow convinced politicians, who have very little experience in the private sector, that health insurance is wildly different from every other product -- even car insurance and homeowner's insurance -- because of its need for a large pool of enrollees.

Everyone talks about the enrollment problem as if this is a bug unique to the health insurance industry. What product, do they imagine, does not need lots of customers?

How could restaurants afford those chefs, fresh flowers, industrial kitchens, one hundred sets of plates, napkins and silverware and a staff of waiters -- without customers? AHHHH! THEY'LL GO OUT OF BUSINESS!!! THE MODEL DOESN'T WORK WITHOUT LOTS OF PARTICIPANTS! CONGRESS MUST GET INVOLVED.

Publishers couldn't have editors, proofreaders, lawyers, paper plants and marketing departments -- unless there's a large pool of book buyers. Pipe manufacturers couldn't have hundreds of employees, huge machines and factories unless -- you get the idea.

Why is "having customers" treated like some freakish need of this one industry?

People are a lot less interested in buying hotel rooms, restaurant meals and pipes than they are in buying health insurance. Everyone knows someone who has died of cancer or had some other major medical problem, and most people are not insane.

Even with the hell of Obamacare, requiring hundreds of hours of work -- to research, sign up for, be thrown off of, then sign up for a different, ever-more-expensive plan, year after year -- the long-suffering taxpayer is doing all that in order to maintain some form of health insurance.

So apparently, no matter how awful you make it, this is a product Americans are desperate to buy!

Republicans all say they want to save the so-called "good parts" of Obamacare. Because who knows better what the American consumer wants than a member of Congress!

I keep imagining Congress designing a "comprehensive hotel reform bill," promising to save the popular parts: "BUT PEOPLE LIKE HAVING TV'S IN THEIR HOTEL ROOMS!" How could we ever get TVs in hotel rooms without Congress writing a law?

It turns out, people running a business have an uncanny ability to figure out what's popular with their customers.

Any "popular" features of Obamacare obviously, manifestly, inevitably will be preserved by the free market. If parents like keeping their useless millennial kids on their plans, guess what? Any insurance company forced to compete with other insurance companies WILL OFFER THAT.

As for covering people with "pre-existing conditions" -- there are pre-existing conditions and pre-existing conditions. Does this mean the unfortunate few with some exorbitantly expensive medical problem? Or does it mean people who have a "pre-existing condition" because they waited to be diagnosed with cancer before buying insurance?

The first category of people was dealt a bad hand. Eventually, they will be taken care of by the market when excess coverage policies are common and reinsurance companies pop up to cover the primary insurance companies.

Until then, a separate program can pay for the unlucky. That's not a reason to wreck the health insurance market for everyone else. There aren't 22 million people with horrifyingly expensive medical conditions. They're being used as the baby seals to sell subsidized health care for the irresponsible.

The second category is a lot less sympathetic, which is precisely why the two cases are always conflated. You can't buy flood insurance after your house has already floated away.

But we won't let people die in the streets, so -- as Trump said at the very first GOP debate -- they will be dealt with "through a different system." They probably can't go to Sloan Kettering, but then again, neither can I. Right now, my $700 a month pays for them to go to Sloan Kettering.

Both cases are of zero practical importance to the vast majority of people who just want to buy health insurance on the free market, rather than what we're doing now, which is giving shiftless layabouts and irresponsible screw-offs an unlimited health care credit card -- paid for through our insurance premiums.

We'd come to Washington and tell you that, but we're working to pay for the pediatric dental care of illegal aliens.