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10/11/17 - MEDIA BEGGING US FOR CONSPIRACY THEORIES ON LAS VEGAS

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#1 Post by Aliquis » Wed Oct 11, 2017 5:07 pm

Ann Coulter wrote:MEDIA BEGGING US FOR CONSPIRACY THEORIES ON LAS VEGAS



October 11, 2017

Now the media are just taunting us with their tall tales about Stephen Paddock, the alleged Las Vegas shooter. Reputedly serious news organizations are claiming that he made a living playing video poker. That's like claiming someone made a living smoking crack.

The media are either doing PR for the gambling industry or they don't want anyone considering the possibility that Paddock was using gambling to launder money.

NBC News reports, with a straight face: "Las Vegas gunman earned millions as a gambler." A Los Angeles Times article is headlined, "In the solitary world of video poker, Stephen Paddock knew how to win." The story says that Paddock's gambling "was at least a steady income over a period of years."

I don't know all the ins and outs of Paddock's life, but that's a lie.

How do reporters imagine casino owners make a living? Any ideas on how all those glorious lobbies, lights, pools and fountains are paid for? How do they think Sheldon Adelson and Steve Wynn became billionaires if gambling is a winning proposition for people like Paddock -- and therefore, by definition, a losing proposition for the casinos?

The media think about money the way Democrats do. They have absolutely no conception of where it originates. Those casino owners sure are generous! reporters think to themselves. Economist Thomas Sowell is always ridiculing journalists for not understanding basic economics. It turns out, they don't understand the spreadsheet of a lemonade stand.

The New York Times explained that the "top" video poker machines pay out 99.17 percent. That's great that Paddock was only losing cents on the dollar (if true), but it's still losing. The Times quickly explained that he could have more than made up his losses with all the "comps" -- the free rooms, meals and "50-year-old port that costs $500 a glass," as his brother Eric said.

Gamblers who are beating the house are not given $500 glasses of port. Refer to the profit/loss spreadsheet. And yet, according to his brother, Paddock was treated like royalty by the casinos. Which means he was losing.

Apart from outright theft, the only way to have an advantage over the casino is by card-counting. That's not cheating and it doesn't guarantee a win. It merely allows the gambler to make a more educated guess as each card is played, thereby tilting the odds ever so slightly in his favor. Still, if the casinos suspect a customer is counting cards, he will be promptly escorted off the premises.

And counting cards only helps with blackjack. Paddock's game of choice was VIDEO POKER. That's a computer! It's programmed to ensure the house wins. Not all the time, but at least often enough to make casino owners multibillionaires. Anyone who plays video poker over an extended period of time will absolutely, 100 percent, by basic logic, end up a net loser.

So why are the media insistent that Paddock was getting rich by playing video poker?

I don't know what happened -- and, apparently, neither do the cops -- but it's kind of odd that we keep being told things that aren't true about the Las Vegas massacre, from the basic timeline to this weird insistence that Paddock made a good living at gambling.

The most likely explanation is that the reporters and investigators are incompetent nitwits. But the changing facts from law enforcement and preposterous lies from the press aren't doing a lot to tamp down alternative theories of the crime.

Among the questions not being asked by our wildly incurious media:

Why would Paddock unload 200 rounds into the hallway at a security guard who was checking on someone else's room before beginning his massacre?

How can it possibly take eight days to figure out when the alleged shooter checked into the hotel?

Why was Paddock wearing gloves if he was about to commit suicide?

Have any other solitary mass shooters ever had girlfriends?

If Paddock wasn't making money on video poker -- and he wasn't -- why would he be cycling millions of dollars through a casino, turning every dollar into, at best, 99 cents?

Maybe Paddock enjoyed video poker. But if the allegedly serious media are going to keep telling us he was making a living doing it, they're just begging us to say that losing a percent or two on millions of dollars doesn't make sense as an investment strategy, but it does make sense as a money laundering operation.

And the probable illicit business requiring money to be laundered that leaps out at us in Paddock's case is illegal gun sales. If true, it would not only explain the arsenal in his hotel room, but also raises the possibility of either an accomplice or different perpetrator altogether.

If this were a movie script, a terrorist would go to Paddock's room on the pretense of buying guns, kill Paddock, commit the massacre, put his gunshot residue-covered gloves on Paddock's dead hands and slip out of the room when the coast was clear.

According to the all-new timeline given by the Las Vegas police -- pending a third revision -- this is at least possible. The hallway was empty, except for a bleeding security guard down by the elevators, for at least two minutes after the shooting stopped. The stairwell was clear for more than half an hour. It also explains the gloves.

There's no evidence for any of this, but on the other hand, there's no evidence for the version the media are giving us. At least the movie script version doesn't require us to pretend that Paddock was making "millions" from video poker.

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#2 Post by skippylou » Wed Oct 11, 2017 5:53 pm

I wouldn't put this all on the media. What about the FBI, you know, the one that leaks like a sieve if it has to do with the President or his associates or family?

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#3 Post by SuperDave » Wed Oct 11, 2017 6:13 pm

One of the early stories had Paddock making his millions on real estate buying and eventually selling multi-family complexes.

Another story had Paddock penniless and still owing $230 for some court fees.

The gun running theory is as goos as any. . . Does anyone know what Eric Holder was doing during the massacre?

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#4 Post by rrmichigan » Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:24 am

Thank you Ann for questioning the claim he was winning at gambling. The whole story stinks to high heaven, and now the media frenzy is focused on Hollywood casting couches and the NFL.

Why has no one touched on the fact that he was able to shoot so many rounds in such a short period of time? Yes, he had the bump stocks, but judging from the leaked picture of one of his rifles each rifle could only shoot around 30 rounds from the magazine pictured. I read he had shot 1000 rounds...in less than 15 minutes? He would have had to be reloading or switching out guns at superhuman speed--30 guns every 30 seconds if my math is correct.

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#5 Post by Brian » Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:12 am

As always great column. Think Ann makes an error. She says casinos dont treat winners like royalty. In fact they do. They treat winners like royalty to get them back and maybe get their money back; and treat loosers like royalty for obvious reasons. Generally casisnos look at length of play first. If you are playing a long time you eventually will loose.

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#6 Post by hhhhh » Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:01 pm

Is is nearly impossible to win at video poker, but not impossible. The progressive jackpot could mean you can transfer money to the next player, possibly laundering money, by increasing the jackpot by playing, and then when the next player takes your seat they will win an enhanced jackpot.

I think you get the same comp win or lose. You might get more comp if you win, to keep you playing until you lose.

From odds shark:

Professional video poker players know that the best games are the full pay Deuces Wild games. If you are able to play a perfect strategy in these games the house edge will disappear, and your average return will be above 100% – somewhere in the vicinity of 100.7%. That’s not an easy edge to find in a casino, and finding one of these games without a professional playing at it is no easy feat for a player.

This edge can be increased when you play games with a progressive jackpot. The bigger the jackpot, the better your potential return. The one thing to remember when playing any progressive jackpot game is to bet the maximum bet. Only max bet hands will qualify for the jackpot, and if you don’t bet the max your potential return drops down dramatically.

And don’t try to hit that Royal Flush every time you get dealt a face card, as the odds of hitting it are 1 in 40,000. Stick to the video poker strategies, as they will give you the best chance at a big payday.

http://www.oddsshark.com/casino/video-p ... opokerodds

This article suggests Paddock won at video poker by winning a secondary drawing.

In the solitary world of video poker, Stephen Paddock knew how to win. Until he didn't
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-veg ... story.html

A curiosity is Paddock is said to be a successful real estate investor. It does not seem possible to be a successful anything in addition to playing video poker 24 x 7. Real estate involves public records, I would think his name must be on deeds, mortgages, ect. He seems to have owned 2 houses in his life time.

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#7 Post by N 4 Nazarene » Fri Oct 13, 2017 12:36 am

Ann,

Can you please look into these details?

A - Soros short of MGM stock with put options purchased on 8/14. 1.35 million shares.
B - Mandalay Bay trademark registration from 1993 with the name of ENLIGHTENED SOCIETY FOR GLOBAL TRANSFORMATION? https://www.trademarkia.com/enlightened ... 49850.html
C - James Murren, CEO of Mandalay Bay/MGM Resorts sits on DHS Nat'l Infrastructure Advisory Council?
D - Murren also released an internal MBay/MGM memo at end of September stating that he would match donations to CAIR, SPLC and ADL.

If these items hold water as I believe they do, please make mention of them and bring more light on them. Thank you.

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#8 Post by BYODKjiM » Fri Oct 13, 2017 9:31 am

I heard somewhere (possibly on Rush) that bumpstocks tend to cause rifles not designed for that amount of rapid firing to overheat and often to jam. That might explain the gloves and the need for so many weapons.

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#9 Post by mason » Fri Oct 13, 2017 10:28 am

The whole, "made millions playing video poker" is as bogus as can be. It's impossible. Why isn't the Drive-By Media interested in this little fact?

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#10 Post by Questioner » Fri Oct 13, 2017 11:27 am

I'm not a conspiracy theory person, but I do have a question (or two).

If the Music Festival was ending (on the last song as the news has reported), then Subject was way behind on His attack schedule. It would have been better to attack at the height of the entertainment schedule rather than at the end, when people had already begun to leave. Also, there was additional ammunition and explosives still in His car located in the parking garage. The explosives (according to the news) were not prepared to be detonated either by remote control or a timer. A car bomb in the concert parking area would have greatly increased the death toll, if detonated when people had fled there for safety and emergency personnel had arrived there to treat the injured. Given all the meticulous planning and preparation He had done up to this point, this seems very out of place. Of course, Subject might have been planning to get away and conduct additional attacks as some have suggested. However, this idea does not mesh with some of His other actions in the hotel room.

Or perhaps, was He disrupted in the middle of His preparations for something else?

Has anyone looked at how long Subject had reserved His hotel room for? Is it possible that the Country Music Festival was NOT the intended target? What other events were planned for that entertainment area, the hotel itself or the general area around the hotel in the following days? Could another event have been His real target? However, once He had the altercation with the hotel security guard, He improvised and attacked the only target available to Him at that time?

Just something to think about.

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#11 Post by N 4 Nazarene » Fri Oct 13, 2017 4:36 pm

Yes, overheating barrels may be the reason for having so many weapons. We are told that he wore brown garden gloves almost all of the time due to a skin condition, but this too may be a non-reason. It could be that he wore them to keep gunpowder residue off of his hands if he really did intend to escape. Where is all of the brass from shooting so many .223/5.56 cartridges? If not in the room, did it land on the Mandalay Bay grounds below the windows? Must have been a ton of it. We are told that he killed 58 and wounded nearly 500. We could go to all of the sound/wave files of the gunfire and slow them down to count the shots, but a rough estimate of generous 50/50 shooting (to account for one hit, one miss) would mean 558 shots times 2 or 1116 shots fired. 558, 1116, or more, whatever the total, that is an awful lot of cartridges. This whole horrible event has been spooky, confusing and dismaying to say the least. America needs to get the truth for those who were killed, wounded and had their beliefs shattered.

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#12 Post by Johnny » Sat Oct 14, 2017 1:44 pm

I have lived in Las Vegas for many years and can confirm that there are a very small group of people who make a living playing video poker. The available evidence suggests that Paddock was one of one of the most successful of this group, and that he was not a gunrunner. In other words, the information reported by the New York Times is accurate. The way it's done is through a technique known as edge play. Even though the house only pays 99.17% on the dollar, the player can come out ahead on what is known as cash back and other promotions. The trick for the player is knowing when to quit. There is an optimal time to quit, and knowing that time puts the odds slightly in the player's favour. Also, many times this will involve finding the right machine. If the casino thinks you are a successful edge player, you will either be barred from the casino or not offered cash back promotions, thus ensuring that edge play will not be available. Just for the record, I am not part of a disinformation conspiracy.

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#13 Post by Jimbo1 » Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:05 am

When you are playing video poker, any jackpot over $1200 gets reported to the federal government, and a form W2-G is generated for your tax return. If you are playing $100+ per hand, you are hitting the $1200 threshold all the time, and every one of these gets reported as "winnings".

These accumlated W2-G amounts have to be reported on the front of your tax return as income, however, you may deduct losses on the back end of your tax return to offset winnings (usually documented by a casino win/loss statement generated by tracking your play with a players card).

Thus I don't doubt he may have had to declare "winnings" of millions, but I am sure there are offsetting losses as deductions. I doubt he was a net winner - maybe at best a break even player when comps are included.

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#14 Post by chitownbob » Wed Oct 18, 2017 9:47 am

Great column.

Personally, I think something fishy is going on.
Accountants don't make enough to gamble away their life savings, and no way I believe he can win at video poker enough to be a "professional".

Why did it take to so long to identify the guns?
Or the fact that he was using a bumpstock?
Note that gloves were likely used because barrels become too hot.
Have they ever identified the clip size?
This guy was shooting forever....how is that possible?
Why the two broken windows?
Las Vegas has cameras everywhere .....why so little information about his doings?

Why is he shooting at a bunch of country music lovers...probably conservatives? What is his motive?
Considering there were 22,000 people stuck there, and he was shooting at them for ten minutes.....its a miracle that so few people were hurt! Was he that poor of a shot? Did he just plan poorly? Why is the media playing it the other way?

Where did this guy get his money from? Anybody check his financials?
Why does the media insist he was a professional gambler, when that is the stupidest thing they can say since he plays video poker? Its a hobby (which is OK) but overall, you will lose money!
Thanks Ann for pointing out that nobody is dogging the girlfriend with questions!

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#15 Post by Flyingcloud » Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:21 am

N 4 Nazarene wrote:
Fri Oct 13, 2017 4:36 pm
Yes, overheating barrels may be the reason for having so many weapons. We are told that he wore brown garden gloves almost all of the time due to a skin condition, but this too may be a non-reason. It could be that he wore them to keep gunpowder residue off of his hands if he really did intend to escape. Where is all of the brass from shooting so many .223/5.56 cartridges? If not in the room, did it land on the Mandalay Bay grounds below the windows? Must have been a ton of it. We are told that he killed 58 and wounded nearly 500. We could go to all of the sound/wave files of the gunfire and slow them down to count the shots, but a rough estimate of generous 50/50 shooting (to account for one hit, one miss) would mean 558 shots times 2 or 1116 shots fired. 558, 1116, or more, whatever the total, that is an awful lot of cartridges. This whole horrible event has been spooky, confusing and dismaying to say the least. America needs to get the truth for those who were killed, wounded and had their beliefs shattered.
You're making some good points here.

We have several ongoing discussion threads about this issue inside the forum. Why don't you join the ACOC community and add your points to the discussions.

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#16 Post by timH » Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:11 pm

Flyingcloud wrote:
Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:21 am
N 4 Nazarene wrote:
Fri Oct 13, 2017 4:36 pm
Yes, overheating barrels may be the reason for having so many weapons. We are told that he wore brown garden gloves almost all of the time due to a skin condition, but this too may be a non-reason. It could be that he wore them to keep gunpowder residue off of his hands if he really did intend to escape. Where is all of the brass from shooting so many .223/5.56 cartridges? If not in the room, did it land on the Mandalay Bay grounds below the windows? Must have been a ton of it. We are told that he killed 58 and wounded nearly 500. We could go to all of the sound/wave files of the gunfire and slow them down to count the shots, but a rough estimate of generous 50/50 shooting (to account for one hit, one miss) would mean 558 shots times 2 or 1116 shots fired. 558, 1116, or more, whatever the total, that is an awful lot of cartridges. This whole horrible event has been spooky, confusing and dismaying to say the least. America needs to get the truth for those who were killed, wounded and had their beliefs shattered.
You're making some good points here.

We have several ongoing discussion threads about this issue inside the forum. Why don't you join the ACOC community and add your points to the discussions.
He makes more sense than you flyingcloud.

Your theory? ....its obvious....he's a white guy.

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#17 Post by mason » Wed Oct 18, 2017 5:04 pm

timH wrote:
Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:11 pm
Flyingcloud wrote:
Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:21 am
N 4 Nazarene wrote:
Fri Oct 13, 2017 4:36 pm
Yes, overheating barrels may be the reason for having so many weapons. We are told that he wore brown garden gloves almost all of the time due to a skin condition, but this too may be a non-reason. It could be that he wore them to keep gunpowder residue off of his hands if he really did intend to escape. Where is all of the brass from shooting so many .223/5.56 cartridges? If not in the room, did it land on the Mandalay Bay grounds below the windows? Must have been a ton of it. We are told that he killed 58 and wounded nearly 500. We could go to all of the sound/wave files of the gunfire and slow them down to count the shots, but a rough estimate of generous 50/50 shooting (to account for one hit, one miss) would mean 558 shots times 2 or 1116 shots fired. 558, 1116, or more, whatever the total, that is an awful lot of cartridges. This whole horrible event has been spooky, confusing and dismaying to say the least. America needs to get the truth for those who were killed, wounded and had their beliefs shattered.
You're making some good points here.

We have several ongoing discussion threads about this issue inside the forum. Why don't you join the ACOC community and add your points to the discussions.
He makes more sense than you flyingcloud.

Your theory? ....its obvious....he's a white guy.
He was an angry old white guy, we've been warned about them for years.

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#18 Post by thelocalpragmatist » Thu Oct 19, 2017 7:13 pm

" The stairwell was clear for more than half an hour. It also explains the gloves. "

Casino's have no blind spots...stairwells are subject to video surveillance...24/7.

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#19 Post by anastasia2657 » Mon Oct 23, 2017 2:07 pm

https://youtu.be/T7AbiYhC6IU Take a look at this before it comes down

Also, Yellow Wheelbarrows

Wheelbarrows - I found a video which showed that the yellow

"wheelbarrows" used were handed out by the Las Vegas authorities, i.e. a

private EMS company called AMR affiliated with police, fire departments

and hospitals in Nevada. They sent 60 ambulances in response to Las Vegas, but never went onto the concert grounds.

https://youtu.be/PIJt7hF7jiA (See at 1:53). The

yellow wheelbarrows we see concert goers using to aid the injured were supplied by this national ambulance/ EMS company. It

is shown on the video at 1:53. AMR is a private EMS/ambulance company

handling the EMS work for many, if not most, states, including Nevada.

The person who looks like a cop on the video states that AMR was present

during Orlando, San Bernadino, Aurora shooting.

There is NO WAY that
such a company which would have government contracts could possibly use such a thing as "wheelbarrows" to

carry the sick and injured because it does not comply with safety standards, federal or state regulations, and the
liability exposure would be great if used to carry the sick and injured. But they were used, and AMR supplied them. How is this possible?

Such a device could be used by them for "drills" where people being carried

are not truly sick or injured. People involved are well and pose no real risk of liability. Further, people involved in such drills probably sign disclaimers or hold harmless agreements.

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#20 Post by Foxfyre » Wed Oct 25, 2017 4:15 pm

Aliquis wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2017 5:07 pm
Ann Coulter wrote:MEDIA BEGGING US FOR CONSPIRACY THEORIES ON LAS VEGAS
I will agree that there is a lot to this story that just isn't adding up, but I have just been watching and reading hoping the pieces would come together. I didn't want to get embroiled in a silly conspiracy theory.

But the video poker thing as a means of making money doesn't really meet the smell test does it. Back in my casino going days, I split my time between my two favorite games: blackjack and video poker. I have won a lot more on video poker--once $4,000 on the dollar machine and I got home with $3,500 of it. Other times smaller jackpots but I was the winner. But over the years, I probably have fed a lot more nickles and quarters and dollars into those machines than what I took out. There are $5 machines and $25 machines that a whole bunch of money could be run through in a fairly short time.

Vegas security will quickly shut down anybody manipulating the machines, exploiting a vulnerability, or if there is a malfunction advantageous to the gambler.

So the idea that anybody would earn millions playing video poker? No. Isn't going to happen. But if you fed a lot of millions into those machines you could conceivably leave with a few million.

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#21 Post by mason » Wed Oct 25, 2017 5:24 pm

Hmmmmmmmm...Paddocks hard drive was missing? And we just find this out now? :shrug:

https://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2 ... ard-drive/

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