07/12/17 - GOP RALLIES BEHIND IDIOTIC BILL

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07/12/17 - GOP RALLIES BEHIND IDIOTIC BILL

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#1 Post by Kevin » Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:16 pm

GOP RALLIES BEHIND IDIOTIC BILL
July 12, 2017
Ann Coulter wrote: Republicans are about to do something very stupid. Using bribery, threats and cajolery, they intend to pass a catastrophically unpopular bill on a party-line vote.

GOP: Obamacare is unpopular, so let's pass a new health care bill that's even MORE unpopular.

Normal Person: Why would you do that?

GOP: No, you don't understand. Obamacare is totally imploding, so if we pass this bill now, all its problems will be blamed on us!

Republicans would be better off doing nothing. They can survive the ridicule for running against Obamacare through four election cycles and then not repealing it. They cannot survive a bill that does nothing to fix the actual problems with Obamacare.

The only explanation for the GOP doing something so stupid and unpopular is that it's all about tax cuts.

Why can't we get it through their heads that we didn't elect Trump to cut taxes? Forty-five percent of people don't pay any federal income tax -- and they voted for Trump! Taxes on high earners (or "Hillary voters") are at a historic low.

Here's a somewhat more important issue I'd like to submit for Republicans' consideration: PEOPLE CAN'T BUY HEALTH INSURANCE THEY WANT, CAN'T SEE THE DOCTORS THEY WANT AND CAN'T AFFORD THEIR PREMIUMS AND DEDUCTIBLES.

How about allowing people the option of buying insurance that doesn't cover sex change operations, gambling addictions, psychotherapy, liver transplants for illegal aliens and so on?

Instead of squandering this moment, Trump the businessman should seize it to trumpet the free market. This is a golden opportunity to give a speech explaining why, contrary to everything your professors told you, communism doesn't work.

Liberals always promise us wondrous cost-saving government programs, and then, it turns out, none of the laws of physics support their exciting plans. Obamacare is crashing and burning -- and Trump hasn't done a thing to anyone's health care. He can say, perfectly accurately, he was just standing there when the plane hit the ground.

To paraphrase Talleyrand, what Republicans are doing with Obamacare is worse than a crime; it's a mistake.

What sets us apart from the rest of the world is freedom -- free people, free markets, free minds. That is how America became the most prosperous nation in the world. There's no genius that can compete with the genius of the free market.

Sentient adults are perfectly capable of making their own choices about what health insurance to buy, the same way they make choices about what food to buy. The whole key to fixing Obamacare is not to repeal it, but to allow the rest of us to buy insurance on the free market.

Right now, it's illegal to sell an insurance plan that most people would like to buy. Instead, you have to buy plans that cover millions of things you don't want and nothing that you do want -- all in order to pay for other people's health care.

It would be as if grocery stores were required to charge you $60 for a head of lettuce in order to fund the federal school lunch program.

It is a blood libel to say we don't care about the old, sick and dispossessed. Everyone has plenty of food in America, even without $60 heads of lettuce. That’s the free market! As Trump said, we will care for them better than they've ever been cared for before. But, first, the welfare cases have to be separated from the free market.

Proposed law: "Notwithstanding any other provision of federal or state law, it shall be lawful to purchase or sell any health insurance product in the United States of America."

Skip the repeal -- so there's nothing for leftist ruffians to protest -- and just give the rest of us the option of escaping Obamacare to buy health insurance the same way we buy everything else. Only a free market can guarantee good products at good prices.

Trump used to understand this! In the very first GOP debate, he said, "What I'd like to see is a private system without the artificial lines around every state. ... Get rid of the artificial lines and you will have yourself great plans. And then we have to take care of the people that can't take care of themselves. And I will do that through a different system."

The "lines around the states" were the 50 state insurance commissions determining which health plans could legally be sold in each state -- mandating, for example, that every plan include coverage for acupuncturists, chiropractors, fertility treatments, speech pathologists and so on.

Instead of throwing off the shackles of these commissions and giving us a nationwide free market in health insurance, Obamacare imposed one enormous federal shackle.

As a result, "health insurance" under Obamacare isn't insurance at all -- it's the government forcing us to pay for other people's health care through ghastly insurance premiums, deductibles and co-pays in exchange for highly limited health insurance for ourselves.

Trump ought to be using the flaming wreckage of Obamacare to illustrate what's wrong with all Soviet five-year plans. It could be as iconic as Reagan's Berlin Wall speech. Teenagers would vote Republican for the next 70 years -- 80 or 90 years, if they could finally buy decent health insurance.
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#2 Post by syzygy » Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:20 am

Ann wrote:The "lines around the states" were the 50 state insurance commissions determining which health plans could legally be sold in each state -- mandating, for example, that every plan include coverage for acupuncturists, chiropractors, fertility treatments, speech pathologists and so on.
This is so spot on. And who do you think lobbied their state legislators to get them to mandate all policies sold in their state cover acupuncturists, chiropractors, et al.? That's right...the acupuncturists, chiropractors, et al.

The chiropractors' lobby in my state (TN) got it fixed now where before you can be determined to be eligible for workman's comp, if it's a back injury, you HAVE to visit a chiropractor, and he has to sign off on it.

Nothing against chiropractors, but we don't all have as much faith in their medical abilities as the state. Our doctor of choice's word on it is credible enough.

(And "no", I haven't been through this, but a friend has. My back is still quite functional. And I've never darkened a chiropractor's door. Other's mileage may vary, but that's precisely what a free market is all about--personal choice. Not mandates.)

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#3 Post by Out of Touch » Thu Jul 13, 2017 7:39 pm

I tuned in expecting key talking points for Trump Jr to be exonerated on .

Instead I get pointy headed policy wonk thought provoking drivel that will impact Americans forever .

Goodbye Reality --- We hardly knew ye .

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#4 Post by Out of Touch » Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:38 pm

Out of Touch wrote:
Thu Jul 13, 2017 7:39 pm
I tuned in expecting key talking points for Trump Jr to be exonerated on .

Instead I get pointy headed policy wonk thought provoking drivel that will impact Americans forever .

Goodbye Reality --- We hardly knew ye .

If anyone can't yet see the pattern -- Chelsea Clinton probably had dinner with Russians too .

We are all going to find out eventually we are under attack from Russia in any way possible .

Collusion -- destabilizing America in any way possible -- Connect the dots --

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#5 Post by herb1957ca » Fri Jul 14, 2017 4:01 pm

Awwww, c’mon. As usual, you are right on everything; but, the great ideas do not qualify as “reconciliation” (50+Pence). Do you really think there is a way to get 60 votes on any of those great ideas?? Do you have any ideas that are possible??


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#7 Post by Guest » Sun Jul 16, 2017 1:22 am

Remove healthcare from the grubby hands of politicians in cahoots with avaricious insurance companies. I pay significantly more no for a crappy OC policy than for my mortgage & homeowners insurance. This is intentional, political decimation of the lower middle class. If Obama was a messiah, it was for the god Chaos. Cleaning up his foul droppings will take decades. The poor could have been assisted more reasonably by a $5 donation checkbox on the 1040. I'd pay $50 per year if it saved me the $450 I'm now forced to blow on $7900-deductible pseudo-insurance. If it takes this kind of financial bloodletting to help the poor, then I say let them do more of the bleeding. The productive 50% already pay all of the nation's income tax, and now they must also directly subsidize the impoverished's healthcare? Legions of whom already receive government subsidies. The U.S. is becoming a place, thanks to liberal-Socialist policies, in which it may be wiser not to live. As per the immigration invasions, Hungary & Czechoslovakia are looking really appealing. They still understand what a country is; a protectively-bordered land of somewhat like-minded people; not an almshouse open to all comers demanding assistance based on their victimhood, unproductive need and ability to pop out offspring. We have severely injured ourselves by actually voting for the derelict and degenerate candidates that the corrupt, political money-game offers up, like gangsters wanting to be made by obtaining the coveted crown of public office. Media and bad legislation are chronically overworking our gag reflexes.

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#8 Post by Guest » Sun Jul 16, 2017 1:25 am

I meant the extra $450 I'm paying atop the $400 it might have been under free-market conditions.

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#9 Post by Darrell » Mon Jul 17, 2017 5:17 pm

Guest No. 7 hit it on the head: "This is intentional, political decimation of the lower middle class." Very well put, and that compliment from a former journalist. This is an excellent website and no bloggers are cursing at each other.

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#10 Post by fletcherwillis » Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:15 pm

Obamacare will not be fully repealed. Unlike Democrat party discipline (remember what happened to Jewish Senator Joe Liberman when he voted no on a Democrat bill that would hurt Israel), there is no party discipline in the Republican party. Nothing meaningful will be done. THERE'S NOW EVEN A NOVEL ON CONGRESS'S FAILURE AND THE FUTURE OF HEALTH CARE IN AMERICA.

The book speaks of the time soon to come when patients who could have been cured become terminally ill because of a doctor shortage and delays in the system. Some rebel. Dying to Save America is an action-packed novel set in the future.

A man in Chicago who spotted a malignancy early enough to have a 97 per cent chance of cure was delayed for so long he became terminally ill. He knows he soon will die and decides to take his congressman with him. He assassinates the congressman, but first mails letters explaining to the news media why he is doing so.

His death spawns an epidemic of copycat killings of congressmen, senators and federal judges by other dying patients. Action is finally taken, but only after the system collapses.

The basic message of the book is that a dysfunctional congress needs to fix medical care or things could get really bad. Dying to Save America by Mitchell Fronchen is available at amazon.com Visit the author's web site, fronchen.com

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#11 Post by JSMCO » Tue Jul 25, 2017 6:40 pm

Suggested title for Ann's next book: "If Republicans had any Balls, they'd be Democrats"

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